Money isn't the issue. Disney/Lucas have already been paid!

I never said that they haven't already been paid. I am refering to when the license expires. which could be next year given common estimates. At that point the license may be put up for the highest bidder. Money is always the issue for companies. If they think they will reap more benefits from some other option, they will do it as it serves the bottom line better.

Not that I imagine anyone in an influential position is reading this, but your post makes me want to stand up and say I wouldn't follow Star Wars rpg to another company. Three was enough, and the FFG version is just too good to drop. So, whoever won such a bidding war wouldn't be getting any of my cash.

You know, for what it's worth.

I don't think there is many other companies in this industry that are in a position to take it atm. WotC has been slimming down the past few years and focusing almost exclusively on D&D Next in an attempt to regain the market from Pazio. Pazio, the current market leader, probably won't branch out from its highly successful Pathfinder brand. The rest of the field, from my current understanding, is at best of similar size to FFG or smaller. FFG success with handling the brand (EotE consistently ranks 2nd or 3rd Pathfinder and sometimes D&D) probably has put it in a very good position to put in a successful bid next time the license. The only thing that I could see that'd take the license away from FFG at this point is if the Mouse decides to do it in house. But I don't think they own any one with RPG publishing experience, so why sink the capital when you already have someone who has been very successful with it?

TL:DR: I don't think there is too much to worry about FFG losing the license and EotE/AoR/The Other One getting short shifted.

And they are handling it similar to the way WEG handled it and thus will likely have a long run like WEG did. As I recall WEG went belly up and that is really the reason the lost the license. Mismanagement on the company side not the Star Wars RPG side.

Man, you guys need to be Doctor Who fans. You want long breaks between new product? Hell, I'll see your four months for Edge of the Empire and raise you 16 years between McCoy's last and Eccleson's first. You want vexing - we wrapped up season 6 in spring of 2013, got the 50th anniversary episode in November, a Christmas regeneration episode in December - and I'm not getting the 12th Doctor until FREAKING FALL!

So you whiners all best shut up!

5 - Disney will not yank the Star Wars license away from FFG, like many are suggesting, because there is no good reason for them to do so.

I can think of one good reason. Money. If they think they can get more money in a bidding war, they may choose to go that route. With the new movies and cartoon coming out, there is increasing interst in this evergreen product. Money always trumps in business.

That's not how licenses work. A company pays money up front for use of their IP for a certain amount of time. Unless some clause in the contract is breached the people who sold the license can't just take it back.

I know a lot of people have said, "Well they took the comics from Dark Horse." Yeah, but that was a given seeing as how Disney had bought arguably the most successful comic book company of all time. Just putting Marvel on the cover will increase sales tenfold, regardless of whether the stories are better or not. Even then, Disney/Lucas didn't pull the license. They just didn't renew it.

As we speak Dark Horse still has the license and is making Star Wars comics. When the contract ends in 2015, it will go to Marvel.

Money isn't the issue. Disney/Lucas have already been paid!

And they had to wait for the license to Dark Horse to expire before they can do so. Because Dark Horse has always minded their P's and Q's. When the License term expires for FFG they might pull it. But as long as FFG does a good job and is willing to pay the fees I am sure it will stay with FFG as long as FFG wants it.

5 - Disney will not yank the Star Wars license away from FFG, like many are suggesting, because there is no good reason for them to do so.

I can think of one good reason. Money. If they think they can get more money in a bidding war, they may choose to go that route. With the new movies and cartoon coming out, there is increasing interst in this evergreen product. Money always trumps in business.

That's not how licenses work. A company pays money up front for use of their IP for a certain amount of time. Unless some clause in the contract is breached the people who sold the license can't just take it back.

I know a lot of people have said, "Well they took the comics from Dark Horse." Yeah, but that was a given seeing as how Disney had bought arguably the most successful comic book company of all time. Just putting Marvel on the cover will increase sales tenfold, regardless of whether the stories are better or not. Even then, Disney/Lucas didn't pull the license. They just didn't renew it.

As we speak Dark Horse still has the license and is making Star Wars comics. When the contract ends in 2015, it will go to Marvel.

Money isn't the issue. Disney/Lucas have already been paid!

And they had to wait for the license to Dark Horse to expire before they can do so. Because Dark Horse has always minded their P's and Q's. When the License term expires for FFG they might pull it. But as long as FFG does a good job and is willing to pay the fees I am sure it will stay with FFG as long as FFG wants it.

Plus the simple fact that Disney owns Marvel (a comics publishing company), so it makes sense for them to pull that particular license back "in house," much as they're doing with the various films rights to Marvel characters when and where they can, and thus why Sony and Fox are cranking out new Spider-Man and X-Men movies.

With the RPG, minis game, and card game, Disney doesn't have a company that produces such things, so they've less of an incentive to simply reclaim the rights for those. Particularly if FFG continues doing high sales numbers. At this point, the only company that could really have a viable chance of challenging FFG for those licenses is WotC, and they've already had their try at it, with the RPGs being a middling success for them, the minis game really only doing well because of the "collectible" aspect (and how comparatively cheaply they were made; yeh gods the molds and paint jobs on some of those were awful).

FFG seems to be going "quality" over "quantity" where X-Wing is concerned, and they've certainly been cranking out RPG supplements at a brisk pace (WotC was roughly one supplement per quarter, barring the huge gap between the core rulebook and Starships of the Galaxy, which was caused by LucasArts having to delay the Force Unleashed game and thus the majority of the associated media such as tie-in novels and the RPG supplement).

It would probably have to be a case of WotC having to prove to Lucasfilm/Disney that not only can they generate a positive revenue stream, but that they can generate a better revenue stream than FFG is managing to produce. There's also the matter of does WotC even want the license back at this point? Commentary on D&DNext has ranged from accepting to lukewarm at best, and FFG has generally been getting a lot of positive buzz on their Star Wars system. WotC already had to contend with being in the shadow of a very popular (WEG d6) Star Wars system prior to their own efforts, so they may not even see it as something worth bothering with and instead focus their existing resources on their own IP rather than deal with the hassles of a licensed product.

5 - Disney will not yank the Star Wars license away from FFG, like many are suggesting, because there is no good reason for them to do so.

I can think of one good reason. Money. If they think they can get more money in a bidding war, they may choose to go that route. With the new movies and cartoon coming out, there is increasing interst in this evergreen product. Money always trumps in business.

That's not how licenses work. A company pays money up front for use of their IP for a certain amount of time. Unless some clause in the contract is breached the people who sold the license can't just take it back.

I know a lot of people have said, "Well they took the comics from Dark Horse." Yeah, but that was a given seeing as how Disney had bought arguably the most successful comic book company of all time. Just putting Marvel on the cover will increase sales tenfold, regardless of whether the stories are better or not. Even then, Disney/Lucas didn't pull the license. They just didn't renew it.

As we speak Dark Horse still has the license and is making Star Wars comics. When the contract ends in 2015, it will go to Marvel.

Money isn't the issue. Disney/Lucas have already been paid!

And they had to wait for the license to Dark Horse to expire before they can do so. Because Dark Horse has always minded their P's and Q's. When the License term expires for FFG they might pull it. But as long as FFG does a good job and is willing to pay the fees I am sure it will stay with FFG as long as FFG wants it.

Plus the simple fact that Disney owns Marvel (a comics publishing company), so it makes sense for them to pull that particular license back "in house," much as they're doing with the various films rights to Marvel characters when and where they can, and thus why Sony and Fox are cranking out new Spider-Man and X-Men movies.

With the RPG, minis game, and card game, Disney doesn't have a company that produces such things, so they've less of an incentive to simply reclaim the rights for those. Particularly if FFG continues doing high sales numbers. At this point, the only company that could really have a viable chance of challenging FFG for those licenses is WotC, and they've already had their try at it, with the RPGs being a middling success for them, the minis game really only doing well because of the "collectible" aspect (and how comparatively cheaply they were made; yeh gods the molds and paint jobs on some of those were awful).

FFG seems to be going "quality" over "quantity" where X-Wing is concerned, and they've certainly been cranking out RPG supplements at a brisk pace (WotC was roughly one supplement per quarter, barring the huge gap between the core rulebook and Starships of the Galaxy, which was caused by LucasArts having to delay the Force Unleashed game and thus the majority of the associated media such as tie-in novels and the RPG supplement).

It would probably have to be a case of WotC having to prove to Lucasfilm/Disney that not only can they generate a positive revenue stream, but that they can generate a better revenue stream than FFG is managing to produce. There's also the matter of does WotC even want the license back at this point? Commentary on D&DNext has ranged from accepting to lukewarm at best, and FFG has generally been getting a lot of positive buzz on their Star Wars system. WotC already had to contend with being in the shadow of a very popular (WEG d6) Star Wars system prior to their own efforts, so they may not even see it as something worth bothering with and instead focus their existing resources on their own IP rather than deal with the hassles of a licensed product.

Not to mention the best they could likely do is a reseraction of Saga. Which while good. Is not of the Quality that FFG is doing. FFG is managing to capture a lot of the good points of D6 while managing to actually do something much better and with less power creep issues.

There fixed it for you.

The LOLBat strikes again?

Srsly - are you actually capable of communicating in anything but internet memes and cliches?

There fixed it for you.

The LOLBat strikes again?

Srsly - are you actually capable of communicating in anything but internet memes and cliches?

Did it occur to you that the cliche might have been intentional to jest as that was how the whole thing started?

Unlike your "srsly"...