What should a treasure in Star Wars contain?

By ddbrown30, in Game Masters

I'm currently building a campaign that, after a series of many adventures, will culminate in the PCs finding a treasure that belonged to a dead crime lord. I'm having a difficult time thinking of what could be in that treasure, though.

I don't want it to just be credits. I want it to be something valuable that would need to be sold in order to be converted into credits. Does just having bars of gold or platinum work? It seems like it would still be valuable, but it doesn't have a very "Star Wars" feel to it.

I'll also say that I'm not looking for suggestions for alternate rewards for the players. I'll likely also include some items et al. with the treasure; coming up with that is much easier. I'm simply looking for suggestions for what might constitute a pile of treasure in the Star Wars universe.

A defunct Holocron.

You could include paintings or sculptures made by well-known artists, furniture made from rare and perhaps extinct trees or unusual metals, ancient droids or vehicles that might appeal to collectors, trophies from hunting or traveling, rare holo recordings, historical artifacts (such as maps of old cities, old toys, or archaic weapons), music boxes with twi'lek dancers, astrogation data or jewelery could work. So could data pads or computer terminals with information on the crime lord's operations that would interest police, his rivals, or the people he bribed and blackmailed. Slaves might also be an appropriate "treasure," but if your party has a good heart, they might free the slaves rather than selling them.

How long has that crime lord been dead? ;)

If at the hands of the PCs then they could have blackmail material and even then throw in that Alderaan encryption device mentioned in the Scoundrels paperback?

Okay maybe throw in some cred sticks in addition to the art stuff since that would give them some money they can spend up front... well maybe limited if they have to hack them to get access... :D

Okay how much are you willing to let them end up with ? :huh:

I threw together some of the raw, hard to get materials and blueprints for a Sensor Mask (ship mod from the old D6 era) that the PC's could try to sell or make themselves for their own use.

Trawling through the wookipedia and looking up rare metals, compounds, equipment and other stuff like that is also good for ideas.

I don't want it to just be credits. I want it to be something valuable that would need to be sold in order to be converted into credits. Does just having bars of gold or platinum work? It seems like it would still be valuable, but it doesn't have a very "Star Wars" feel to it.

Well, metal ingots are the core treasure in the Beyond the Rim module, which seems pretty "Star Wars" to me :)

Information would be an excellent treasure, and also perhaps an unexpected one; players might automatically think "gold and gems" when they hear the word treasure (as would, no doubt, any amount of characters in the SW universe) so making it a box of datacards would be unexpected. They could contain all sorts of valuable information, from blackmail files the PCs could return for goodwill or keep for further blackmail, information about lost treasures like cargo ships or equipment storehouses, and other things that would be worth something to someone. You could have a lot of adventures where your players must find a way to capitalize off the information they found.

Put in credits, but old credits like ancient Sith Empire old. They'd be absolutely worthless to the average person, but they would be priceless to the right collector and an object of mystic fascination to other...interested parties.

Crates of raw spice. Valuable yes but they need to fence the stuff first.

A crime lords vault eh? hmmm...

Seriously though, think about the motivations of the person in question and I bet you'll come up with some neat ideas.

-Star Charts to uncharted systems (Good for setting up remote bases, or just a nice quiet place to retire)

-Data Tape of government officials in compromising situations. (It's a lot easier to avoid Imperial Entanglements if you've got a holotape of Moff Tarkin prancing around in ladies clothes singing Britney Spears songs).

-Bogus ID documents, lots of em.

-Encrypted...something... (Was it the books for the operation? The location of the bodies? His mothers recipe for stewed Grunka Lizard?)

I like the idea of art, sculptures, and other rarities. I do also like the idea of datapads or other info sources as they're a great way of setting up the next adventure or campaign.

As for how long the crime lord has been dead, I specifically left it vague to give you guys the most freedom. It could just as easily be hundreds of years or recent enough that he could have faked his death. I haven't decided yet.

Someone frozen in carbonite let the players think its a Jedi when it could easily be a Sith...

Could even be someone from the KOTOR MMO era, after all a lot of information was lost over the intervening years you never know they may have been frozen because of some minor misdeed and when freed you discover they may be your only lead to a long lost fortune provided you can help them get over the fact everyone they ever known is now dead...

Darn could even be some biological weapon kept literally on "ice" sorry you meant treasure so if like Xim it turns out to be an massive hoard of fuel for obsolete starships... the last breeding pair of saber jaguars or cute cabbit-like creatures that reproduce like made and eat more than tribbles... except maybe they can eat anything!

Ancient collection of music dating back millennia... still think have it be some obscure form of tech that holds the information rather than be the specific treasure so its worth say tens of thousands but what it leads to is worth maybe millions or more?

Nooo

Someone frozen in carbonite let the players think its a Jedi when it could easily be a Sith...

Could even be someone from the KOTOR MMO era, after all a lot of information was lost over the intervening years you never know they may have been frozen because of some minor misdeed and when freed you discover they may be your only lead to a long lost fortune provided you can help them get over the fact everyone they ever known is now dead...

Darn could even be some biological weapon kept literally on "ice" sorry you meant treasure so if like Xim it turns out to be an massive hoard of fuel for obsolete starships... the last breeding pair of saber jaguars or cute cabbit-like creatures that reproduce like made and eat more than tribbles... except maybe they can eat anything!

Ancient collection of music dating back millennia... still think have it be some obscure form of tech that holds the information rather than be the specific treasure so its worth say tens of thousands but what it leads to is worth maybe millions or more?

Noooooope. The freezing people in carbonite thing that's become common in the EU, especially in the Old Republic is, hands down, my most hated element. The entire reason that they tested the process on Han first was because it hadn't been done before and they weren't sure he would survive the process and Vader didn't want to try it on Luke first and risk killing him.

Noooooope. The freezing people in carbonite thing that's become common in the EU, especially in the Old Republic is, hands down, my most hated element. The entire reason that they tested the process on Han first was because it hadn't been done before and they weren't sure he would survive the process and Vader didn't want to try it on Luke first and risk killing him.

That was because Bespin didn't have a state of the art facility. Vader trusted the process, not the facility. TCW shows them using it to get past the biological scanners on a mission to the Citadel, worked just fine.

That was because Bespin didn't have a state of the art facility. Vader trusted the process, not the facility. TCW shows them using it to get past the biological scanners on a mission to the Citadel, worked just fine.

TCW is EU. Regardless, agree to disagree on the interpretation of the scenes from Empire. I guess since Vader never explicitly says that he's running the test due to the facility or the process, it could be taken either way. I just feel that making it a common practice dilutes the impact in Empire.

That was because Bespin didn't have a state of the art facility. Vader trusted the process, not the facility. TCW shows them using it to get past the biological scanners on a mission to the Citadel, worked just fine.

TCW is EU. Regardless, agree to disagree on the interpretation of the scenes from Empire. I guess since Vader never explicitly says that he's running the test due to the facility or the process, it could be taken either way. I just feel that making it a common practice dilutes the impact in Empire.

Some just don't want to hear it. Canon is only what's on the screen - Episodes I-VI, TCW and what's to come.

Edited by MrDodger

Some just don't want to hear it. Canon is only what's on the screen - Episodes I-VI, TCW and what's to come.

Interesting. I didn't realize they considered TCW as part of the core canon and not part of the EU.

It still doesn't change how I feel about the dilution of carbon freezing in the same way that the fact the midichlorians are canon doesn't make them any less stupid.

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TCW is EU. Regardless, agree to disagree on the interpretation of the scenes from Empire. I guess since Vader never explicitly says that he's running the test due to the facility or the process, it could be taken either way. I just feel that making it a common practice dilutes the impact in Empire.

But he does say it explicitly: "This facility is crude, but it should be adequate to freeze Skywalker for his journey to the Emperor."

It still doesn't change how I feel about the dilution of carbon freezing in the same way that the fact the midichlorians are cannon doesn't make them any less stupid.

Fine, but you can't argue against the validity of the concept because you have a pet peeve about it.

Edited by whafrog

But he does say it explicitly: "This facility is crude, but it should be adequate to freeze Skywalker for his journey to the Emperor."

Yes, but that's followed up with Lando saying, "Lord Vader, we only use this facility for carbon freezing. If you put him in there, it might kill him."

This serves to muddy the specifics of the scene and make it difficult to be sure. It's like, really, your carbon freezing chamber only does carbon freezing? Since that is so obvious, Lando must be telling him because using a carbon freezing chamber as a method to freeze a person is either so rare that almost no one has ever heard of it or it has never been done before. Again, agree to disagree on the interpretation here.

Fine, but you can't argue against the validity of the concept because you have a pet peeve about it.

Sure I can. If they had included carbon freezing in one of the prequels, I would still be railing against it here. You don't have to agree with me, though.

Edited by ddbrown30

But he does say it explicitly: "This facility is crude, but it should be adequate to freeze Skywalker for his journey to the Emperor."

Yes, but that's followed up with Lando saying, "Lord Vader, we only use this facility for carbon freezing. If you put him in there, it might kill him."

This serves to muddy the specifics of the scene and make it difficult to be sure. It's like, really, your carbon freezing chamber only does carbon freezing? Since that is so obvious, Lando must be telling him because using a carbon freezing chamber as a method to freeze a person is either so rare that almost no one has ever heard of it or it has never been done before. Again, agree to disagree on the interpretation here.

Fine, but you can't argue against the validity of the concept because you have a pet peeve about it.

Sure I can. If they had included carbon freezing in one of the prequels, I would still be railing against it here. You don't have to agree with me, though.

So would you be against some form of suspended animation that leaves the subject uneffected by the course of time as well as being unaware they've been stuck inside there for maybe a thousand years?

For example a Sith artefact designed to keep its prisoner alive and intact regardless of how long as long as it remains intact?

The KOTOR MMO used this as a means of how the Bountyhunter secured their targets for transportation but that doesn't come under canon as stated above...

Edited by copperbell

But he does say it explicitly: "This facility is crude, but it should be adequate to freeze Skywalker for his journey to the Emperor."

Yes, but that's followed up with Lando saying, "Lord Vader, we only use this facility for carbon freezing. If you put him in there, it might kill him."

This serves to muddy the specifics of the scene and make it difficult to be sure. It's like, really, your carbon freezing chamber only does carbon freezing? Since that is so obvious, Lando must be telling him because using a carbon freezing chamber as a method to freeze a person is either so rare that almost no one has ever heard of it or it has never been done before. Again, agree to disagree on the interpretation here.

Fine, but you can't argue against the validity of the concept because you have a pet peeve about it.

Sure I can. If they had included carbon freezing in one of the prequels, I would still be railing against it here. You don't have to agree with me, though.

So would you be against some form of suspended animation that leaves the subject uneffected by the course of time as well as being unaware they've been stuck inside there for maybe a thousand years?

For example a Sith artefact designed to keep its prisoner alive and intact regardless of how long as long as it remains intact?

The KOTOR MMO used this as a means of how the Bountyhunter secured their targets for transportation but that doesn't come under canon as stated above...

Enter the Unknown gives us Specimen Containers that are specifically noted to put beings in them into stasis. Makes bounty hunting that much easier.

Enter the Unknown gives us Specimen Containers that are specifically noted to put beings in them into stasis. Makes bounty hunting that much easier.

Much obliged I missed that!

So would you be against some form of suspended animation that leaves the subject uneffected by the course of time as well as being unaware they've been stuck inside there for maybe a thousand years?

Yeah, I'm not against the concept of stasis or anything like that. I just dislike the idea of using carbonite.

So would you be against some form of suspended animation that leaves the subject uneffected by the course of time as well as being unaware they've been stuck inside there for maybe a thousand years?

Yeah, I'm not against the concept of stasis or anything like that. I just dislike the idea of using carbonite.

Me too, I hate how in Empire Lando talks about how dangerous it is, and Vader agrees to the point he freezes Solo as a test.

But then in the EU freezing people in Carbonite is just another thing you can do...