The Guardian-class light cruiser http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Guardian-class_light_cruiser

could act as the imperial support ship like the rebel transport.

It also serves as a carrier for up to 10 Ties - so it would be just perfect for a 'huge ship + one fighter' - pack

I don't see why they can't do the imperial huge ship as the aborted (delayed?) play mat....

The Imperial versions for the transport and CR-90 are already done. I promise. They have the prototypes, the cards, and are simply play testing the hell out of them. making sure the concepts work etc.

People say FFG will wait to see what the sales for the Transport and CR-90 are. This is true, but I'm absolutely sure they have already done 80% of the work on the Empire ships. It's just what a company with an explosive product line does. Puts resources into planning to ride the wave.

The interesting thing is whether they will do huge empire ships that fill the same role as the rebels or if they will have a different spin on them. I like the idea a TIE carrier concept. Has the ability to launch TIEs. That would be sweet. Interdictors / Tactor Beams would be interesting as well.

Also I believe they will do Hound's Tooth and Wild Karde. Both should be about the transports size. These ships would be AWESOME. So many ways to make them unique and interesting.

I firmly believe FFG has caught up to the demand for this game and has devoted alot of resources to keep it humming. When the CEO says that X-wing is the most popular product line they have ever made and that we "should wait and see what they have planned for this year" he is talking about a hell of alot more than Wave 4 and Rebel Aces.

The transport will sell like cupcakes at fat camp. This is going to be awesome.

I just really want them to start putting out some more bounty hunter / smuggler ships (IG-2000 / Punishing One / Mist Hunter / YT-2400).

I'm so excited. Really love this game.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Empire getting some slightly smaller single base "Huge" ships based on this paragraph from the huge ship rules

For a huge ship with a single ship card, all Damage cards that are placed next to the Ship card count against that ship’s hull value.

Maybe a ship worth 1 or 2 Epic points that would give an "epic swarm" for the Imperials. I'm not sure what could fall into that classification though.

I have no doubt we'll see some kind of Star Destroyer style ship that may cost 4 or 5 Epic points though. it just seems unavoidable.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Empire getting some slightly smaller single base "Huge" ships based on this paragraph from the huge ship rules

For a huge ship with a single ship card, all Damage cards that are placed next to the Ship card count against that ship’s hull value.

Maybe a ship worth 1 or 2 Epic points that would give an "epic swarm" for the Imperials. I'm not sure what could fall into that classification though.

I have no doubt we'll see some kind of Star Destroyer style ship that may cost 4 or 5 Epic points though. it just seems unavoidable.

That is interesting. The transport is 2 Epic pts and the CR-90 3.

It would be cool to see Huge ships with 1, 4, and (glup) 5. Maybe the plan is to have the imperial ships be 1 and 4 with a different role?

I still wanna see the 5 pointer though.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Empire getting some slightly smaller single base "Huge" ships based on this paragraph from the huge ship rules

For a huge ship with a single ship card, all Damage cards that are placed next to the Ship card count against that ship’s hull value.

Maybe a ship worth 1 or 2 Epic points that would give an "epic swarm" for the Imperials. I'm not sure what could fall into that classification though.

I have no doubt we'll see some kind of Star Destroyer style ship that may cost 4 or 5 Epic points though. it just seems unavoidable.

That is interesting. The transport is 2 Epic pts and the CR-90 3.

It would be cool to see Huge ships with 1, 4, and (glup) 5. Maybe the plan is to have the imperial ships be 1 and 4 with a different role?

I still wanna see the 5 pointer though.

It would be interesting to see another point constellation for the Imperium, there will be strength differences anyhow might as well make it a theme.

the vigil-class could work as a 4 and perhaps something like the mentioned guardian class might work as a "small" huge ship (and having something like a small tie carrier would be something nice mechanics-wise).

I don't know if they want to make a 1 epic pointer ship, allowing for five of them might be over the top or they would have to be too weak to feel huge. On the other hand, they might the want to allow people to field both of the available options in one epic game, which reduces the number combinations drastically...

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Empire getting some slightly smaller single base "Huge" ships based on this paragraph from the huge ship rules

For a huge ship with a single ship card, all Damage cards that are placed next to the Ship card count against that ship’s hull value.

Maybe a ship worth 1 or 2 Epic points that would give an "epic swarm" for the Imperials. I'm not sure what could fall into that classification though.

I have no doubt we'll see some kind of Star Destroyer style ship that may cost 4 or 5 Epic points though. it just seems unavoidable.

This text applies to the Transport. It does not have different ship cards for its sections. From the preview article:

I'm convinced FFG already has some prototypes of Imperial huge ships made.

Of course they want to create Imperial huge ships. Of _course_ they do! I bet there are a few people sitting around right now trying to figure out how to make it work.

I'm hoping it's the Vigil. That ship looks awesome!

I'd bet they are far past the "trying to make it work" stage and are well into model and artwork production.

I'd guess they have prototypes and the rest ready for playtesting, and are working on rules, cards, upgrades ect... But I doubt they have anything ready for production yet. They will no doubt want to get Imperial huge ships out there soon, but they won't be coming out until after Wave 4.

I'm betting we see some sort of reveal at Gencon.

My bets are on Lancer Frigate or Tartan Patrol Cruiser, and of those I think Tartan Patrol Cruiser is more likely. The Lancer's in more but the Tartan looks better IMO and FFG's sourced quite a lot from EaW/FoC (the Phantom only appears in FoC and the really old game it was invented for, the Defender's appearance is very in line with FoC, and the Zann Consortium are in Edge of the Empire) They're both anti-starfighter platforms.

I'm betting we see some sort of reveal at Gencon.

That wouldn't surprise me at all. The Transport is due in stores by the 30th, that gives them 2 weeks to see what sales are like and pull the trigger. I wouldn't be surpised at all if they already have something they should show at Gencon, I just think they'll hold off until they know more.

That said I think they should already have some idea, based on pre-orders and the like. I also am fairly sure that the sales will be enough to warrant Imperial ships.

I am going to agree that I think Imperial Huge ships are inevitable. As I have been reading this thread I have done a bunch of Google image searches. And I just have to say that most of the things I have looked up don't really do it for me. Some I think are too big for this game, others are just ugly. And I mean lame-ugly not cool-ugly like most of the Star Wars Universe.

I know that FFG doesn't really care about my vote, but if I had my choice I would pick:

Imperial Customs Corvette (the one that looks a little like an x from the top) or the Imperial Lander the one that looks like a Lambda Shuttle on Steroids. (The Sentinel Class Landing Craft)

It is a little small, but it is definitely much larger than a normal shuttle

So imperial players would have to pay MORE for their huge ship than rebel players do?

Yeah, that would go over REAAAL well.

If the Imperial ships are larger then the Rebel versions, why in the world would anyone have an issue with paying more?

I mean we're paying more for the CR-90 then the Transport, but I don't hear anyone upset about that. Anyone buying these things should understand that the cost is based on the size of the model, and little else.

So lets say the CR-90 is 12in long, a 18in long Imperial ship would naturally cost more, and I just don't see how anyone could complain about that.

So imperial players would have to pay MORE for their huge ship than rebel players do? Yeah, that would go over REAAAL well.

If the Imperial ships are larger then the Rebel versions, why in the world would anyone have an issue with paying more?I mean we're paying more for the CR-90 then the Transport, but I don't hear anyone upset about that. Anyone buying these things should understand that the cost is based on the size of the model, and little else.So lets say the CR-90 is 12in long, a 18in long Imperial ship would naturally cost more, and I just don't see how anyone could complain about that.

In theory I'm thinking they will have the Imperial ship coat as much as the two Rebel Ships together. But who knows.

So imperial players would have to pay MORE for their huge ship than rebel players do? Yeah, that would go over REAAAL well.

If the Imperial ships are larger then the Rebel versions, why in the world would anyone have an issue with paying more?I mean we're paying more for the CR-90 then the Transport, but I don't hear anyone upset about that. Anyone buying these things should understand that the cost is based on the size of the model, and little else.So lets say the CR-90 is 12in long, a 18in long Imperial ship would naturally cost more, and I just don't see how anyone could complain about that.

Did you read the post I was quoting there? He was suggesting a $30 product that came with an alternate paint job tie advanced and a bunch of cards to make the corvette and transport imperial ships as well as rebel ships. So for $120 the imperials get the same ship the rebels get for $90 (plus a variant tie advanced or something).

So for $120 the imperials get the same ship the rebels get for $90 (plus a variant tie advanced or something).

Oh, yeah I must of missed the context of your post.

Notice that it is Huge Ship Only AND Rebel Only. Plot thickens

After reading those rules, I think it is a sure thing that there will be a Star Destroyer, and likely lots of them. And they may be more expensive than the Rebel ships, but they will do a lot more, and will likely be well worth it. This is really going to explode this game into something nuts.

As if it wasn't that way already.

After reading those rules, I think it is a sure thing that there will be a Star Destroyer, and likely lots of them.

If anything the rules make a ISD even less likely.

A CR-90 costs 3 epic points and the max you can have is 5. Considering that a Transport with no weapons costs 2, I don't see how anyone could expect a ISD to only cost 2 more epic points then a CR-90. Just look at the vigil corvette, that would easily be 4 or maybe 5 epic points when you consider how many more guns and such it has.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Empire getting some slightly smaller single base "Huge" ships based on this paragraph from the huge ship rules

For a huge ship with a single ship card, all Damage cards that are placed next to the Ship card count against that ship’s hull value.

Maybe a ship worth 1 or 2 Epic points that would give an "epic swarm" for the Imperials. I'm not sure what could fall into that classification though.

I have no doubt we'll see some kind of Star Destroyer style ship that may cost 4 or 5 Epic points though. it just seems unavoidable.

That is interesting. The transport is 2 Epic pts and the CR-90 3.

It would be cool to see Huge ships with 1, 4, and (glup) 5. Maybe the plan is to have the imperial ships be 1 and 4 with a different role?

I still wanna see the 5 pointer though.

If they ever do a Nebulon B Frigate then it would probably be 5 Epic points:

If they go any bigger then they will need an even larger ship size, like "massive", and the battles and models will start getting ridiculous. Not that I'm against that, necessarily...

A CR90 is 150M long and has 6 guns. The game version is 3 epic points.

A ISD is 1600M long and has 135 guns. The game version should be ~30 epic points, or more. That's even if you could fit it on the table.

A CR90 is 150M long and has 6 guns. The game version is 3 epic points.

A ISD is 1600M long and has 135 guns. The game version should be ~30 epic points, or more. That's even if you could fit it on the table.

Good point on that, I just looked up the Nebulon B Frigate on wookiepedia. It is listed as having 24 guns, so for it to come in at only 5 epic points it would have to be toned down quite a bit. Maybe they could make it 5 Epic points, and just make the cards cost a huge amount. Like 250 points for a naked Nebulon B.

I just don't see the Nebula B Frigate in X-wing. Even though it is much smaller than a Star Destroyer it is still much much bigger than a corvette.

Side point in the X-wing series of games the Nebula B Frigate was the only ship I never destroyed.

I would LOVE to see the Imperial Escort Carrier from the Rogue Squadron III video game. Have it come with a TIE Hunter and a TIE advanced, and Inwould be fine if it was the only Imperial Epic ship released in the first wave.