[rolling eyes] Is it really so tough to spell "perform" correctly?

Only if you've preformed your opinion.

Only if you've preformed your opinion.

LMAO

The one that annoys me is "turrent".

Rouge Squadron to the rescue!

I must admit to being guilty of ordinance a few times.

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

Guilty of that because I didn't knew. As a french guy, there is some expression/nuance/distinction that I don't know or are lost in translation. I'll keep that in mind from now on.

Rouge instead of Rogue gets on my nerve though, especially since I'm french, Rouge is the color red. Funny thing is when I was young, I first watched the movie in french. Watched them a lot before watching them in english but still got into the lore with the RPG. Since they changed a few name in the Original (Han became Yan, C-3PO became Z-6P0, R2-D2 was D2-R2), when I learned about the Rogue Squadron, I wondered if when they called themselves Rouge 2, Rouge 5 at the end of episode 4, if it was again something they changed. When I finally got to see it in english, I saw that it really was Red Squadron. Even the french got it right! Why can't some people on the internet do!? In the lore, I think Red Squadron became Rogue Squadron right? So, maybe they are just calling them by their old french designation: Rouge Squadron.

Is this cannon?

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

True, but I let that one slide because of the "Squad Leader" card.

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

True, but I let that one slide because of the "Squad Leader" card.

Actually this is new to me ... i assumed squad and squadron to be the same.

Does a squad leader amongst 'vehicles' address their 'crew'? Is 'Squadron Leader' a valid term?

Maybe 'Wing Commander' or 'Wing Leader' would have been a better name, though?

Whilst we're expressing our annoyances, can I put in a vote for way the people seem to interchange between "e.g." and "i.e." as if they're completely comparable and compatible.

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

True, but I let that one slide because of the "Squad Leader" card.

Actually this is new to me ... i assumed squad and squadron to be the same.

Does a squad leader amongst 'vehicles' address their 'crew'? Is 'Squadron Leader' a valid term?

Maybe 'Wing Commander' or 'Wing Leader' would have been a better name, though?

Squad Leader is fine (I think) as it's a reference to the men/women flying the vehicles, which, in a skirmish game, may or may not actually be part of the same squadron.

It depends if vehicles are persons. You cannot give an attribute such as leadership to an inanimate object.

But a ship can be the lead ship, or the leader, but not give leadership.

Squadron:

From Miriam's dictionary:

1

: a unit of military organization: as

a : a cavalry unit higher than a troop and lower than a regiment

b : a naval unit consisting of two or more divisions and sometimes additional vessels

c (1) : a unit of the United States Air Force higher than a flight and lower than a group (2) : a military flight formation

2

: a large group of people or things <a squadron of limos>

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

I never knew this! And now I do. That's helpful, thanks.

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

Guilty of that because I didn't knew. As a french guy, there is some expression/nuance/distinction that I don't know or are lost in translation. I'll keep that in mind from now on.

Rouge instead of Rogue gets on my nerve though, especially since I'm french, Rouge is the color red. Funny thing is when I was young, I first watched the movie in french. Watched them a lot before watching them in english but still got into the lore with the RPG. Since they changed a few name in the Original (Han became Yan, C-3PO became Z-6P0, R2-D2 was D2-R2), when I learned about the Rogue Squadron, I wondered if when they called themselves Rouge 2, Rouge 5 at the end of episode 4, if it was again something they changed. When I finally got to see it in english, I saw that it really was Red Squadron. Even the french got it right! Why can't some people on the internet do!? In the lore, I think Red Squadron became Rogue Squadron right? So, maybe they are just calling them by their old french designation: Rouge Squadron.

As a native English speaker, rouge instead of rogue gets on my nerves, too.

The one that gets me is saying squad instead of squadron. A squad is people. A squadron is vehicles. Very petty, I know but it just niggles...

True, but I let that one slide because of the "Squad Leader" card.

Actually this is new to me ... i assumed squad and squadron to be the same.

Does a squad leader amongst 'vehicles' address their 'crew'? Is 'Squadron Leader' a valid term?

Maybe 'Wing Commander' or 'Wing Leader' would have been a better name, though?

Oh, Wing Commander would have been much better =P

So I spent some time in the USMC, and know a little about theUSAF, so I'll give it to you how I know it.about

A flight is 20 people or so. A squadron is about 4-6 flights. Several Squadrons make a group and several groups make a Wing.

So "Squadron" is an aeronautical term. Squad on the other hand if for infantry. I guess squadron could be used for vehicles too. But if its a vehicle, we call the leader the VC or Vehicle Commander, TC (tank commander) and so on. But ive never heard "squadron" referred to as a group of ground vehicles, only planes and such.

In the Marines, we have a Fire Team, which has 4-5 people. Then a few fire teams make a squad. 3-4 squads make a platoon. 3-5 platoons make a Company and it keeps going on from there. I have certainly heard the term "Squad Leader", but thats just referring to a few guys on the ground, or a squad of 2 tanks with one of the TCs being designated as the "squad leader."

"Squadron leader" seems to me like it is an actual term for a billet in the USAF, but i dont know for sure....sitting at a desk all day is not my thing...

[rolling eyes] Is it really so tough to spell "perform" correctly?

I think this is less an issue with spelling and more an issue with proofreading. "Preform" and "perform" are spelled correctly, but the real issue here is usage. Don't use "preform" when you mean "perform", or vice versa, and proofread your posts.

In other news, your, you're, yore!

In other news, your, you're, yore!

On this forum, don't forget Yorr.

In other news, your, you're, yore!

On this forum, don't forget Yorr.

Ha! Good point.

In Naval Aviation, squadron is the term for a medium sized group organized to fly identical aircraft for a common mission. This is usually anywhere between 30-50 pilots and ten times that in maintenance personnel with 10-20 aircraft. Hence 'Rogue Squadron' is the unit that all wears the same patches on their space suits and fights together. Each squadron has a mascot and a letter / number designator. So Red Squadron is the ~30 xwings that attacked the Death Star in the battle of Yavin. Multiple squadrons make up a wing. Those are Squadrons of the same type. In SW, the differing squadrons would probably be more like a CAG make up of multiple squadrons, each a different type of spacecraft all working together on the same mission. The term 'squad' is more of a ground term, formation aircraft use 'section' to denote two or more aircraft and 'division' to denote two or more sections. Squad leader should really be 'section' leader or 'flight' lead. A 'flight' just means multiple aircraft. The flight lead is often the most senior aviator in the group. The flight lead need not be flying in the lead of the formation. That role will change on who plays lead and who plays wing. The flight lead could easily be the wingman and a non flight lead aircraft be the 'form' lead. In ground terms, a section lead would be a fire team leader and a division lead be a squad leader. First couple of chapters of Rogue Squadron capture this structure perfectly.

Also of note - the term 'barrel roll' always bothered me. What they perform in SW to 'barrel roll' is technically an aileron roll. Barrel roll is different. On well, I think everyone knows what they were getting at.

Typos don't bother me. I see enough of them in books that have been proof read; that seeing one on forums is no big deal.

Your and you're that is an issue!

Also of note - the term 'barrel roll' always bothered me. What they perform in SW to 'barrel roll' is technically an aileron roll. Barrel roll is different. On well, I think everyone knows what they were getting at.

When performing an aileron roll does the aircraft actually change bearing? My understanding is that an aileron roll is done along the center axis of a plane from front to rear so the plane doesn't really changes direction.

There were 30 Rebel ships total, and a number of those were Y-wings of Gold Squadron. Depending on where you draw your canon line there were up to four Alliance squadrons in the Battle of Yavin, potentially including a few A-wings and B-wings.

I am a bit of a syntax nazi, but I do not worry about "squad" in X-wing since the rulebook uses it all over the place.

There were 30 Rebel ships total, and a number of those were Y-wings of Gold Squadron. Depending on where you draw your canon line there were up to four Alliance squadrons in the Battle of Yavin, potentially including a few A-wings and B-wings.

I am a bit of a syntax nazi, but I do not worry about "squad" in X-wing since the rulebook uses it all over the place.

Nazi should be capitalized.

An aileron roll is when you take the stick or yolk and essentially shove it to the full right or left stop. The craft will then spin on a lateral access. Direction of travel will remain the same but you'll be slightly displaced left or right depending in direction rolled. The picture for 'barrel roll' in the game is what the craft is doing flipping upside down momentarily. A barrel roll will still maintain general direction of travel when complete, but the maneuver is different. It's named because you are essentially flying a maneuver around an invisible barrel in the sky. You'll start a loop, pulling straight up, then start a left or right turn near the top of the loop so you end inverted perpendicular to your original direction of travel. You continue that looping, turning motion to fly around the middle part of the barrel coming back to original direction of travel having flown around you invisible sky barrel.

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