Mixing things up...VERY non-canon

By Roy Stone, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

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Dune

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Alien

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During a moment of "crazy ideas" I thought up an idea for an Alien vs Predator plot in a game of Edge of the Empire. As the idea started to grow, it came to include a planet much like Dune with a people much like the Fremen. There's even giant worms. Hiding out among a Fremen Seitch is a Vulcan, who quite rightly is the Force Sensitive, who has become trapped on the planet since the arrival of the Empire.

So what have I got so far?

On a primitive jungle planet, the Predators introduce Alien eggs to infect the tall and strong natives, the Na'vis. Around the same time, the Empire begins setting up an outpost to begin mining operations and are ignorant of the events taking place in the surrounding jungle. Naturally the Na'vis blame the Empire for the savage Aliens while the Predators are just enjoying the hunt. At some point a member of the Imperial personnel, a VIP, encounters a Facehugger and is rushed to a medical facility. Fortunately the "infection" is discovered and removed before it is too late and mining operations are temporarily suspended.

Rather than accept defeat however, the Empire mining operation is moved to a nearby desert planet. Ruling the inhabitants with the usual iron fist, the Empire soon finds itself on the receiving end of Fremen attacks. Such is the ferocity of the attacks, which soon become coordinated as if led by a single individual rather than being random tribal attacks, that the Empire garrison is worn away to nothing.

After surviving an Alien in the chest, and witnessing the Aliens own fierce nature, the VIP decides to introduce the Aliens to the planet. But rather than risk any Empire troops, the VIP leads a disguised team on a confiscated ship and hires some skilled hunters to recover as many eggs as possible. These would then be taken to the desert planet and allowed to do what they do best.

Meanwhile on the desert planet the Rebel Alliance has set up a base and the Vulcan leads some Fremen to meet them and make peace. This didn't go unnoticed by the Empire, but works well into their plans since the hunters would pass on the eggs to smugglers known to supply the Rebellion.

That is what I've got so far.

Naturally a group of hunters who can fight through Na'vis, deadly wildlife and Aliens will attract the attention of the Predators.

What do you think so far?

I'm expecting some to hate the idea so don't worry about expressing that.

Forgot to mention this is a plot for a long campaign, not a few games.


I like it. Crazy, but why not.

I've always thought about trying to mix in Lovecraftian horror—bizarre alien creatures like Mi-go or spawn of Yog-Sothoth, descents into madness, and unspeakable horror. It's a big galaxy and the story is yours to tell so why not go nuts with it?

I've always thought about trying to mix in Lovecraftian horror—bizarre alien creatures like Mi-go or spawn of Yog-Sothoth, descents into madness, and unspeakable horror. It's a big galaxy and the story is yours to tell so why not go nuts with it?

Being a Lovecraft fan myself, if I ever get to actually run a campaign, I want to do a short run of maybe 3-4 sessions with that being the theme. Most probably during the month of October.

To the OP. Love it! Mash it all up I say! We play in a GM made star system at this point and have had no reason as of yet to leave it yet. That will all probably change as soon as the Empire gets wind of what is going on there.

I've always thought about trying to mix in Lovecraftian horror—bizarre alien creatures like Mi-go or spawn of Yog-Sothoth, descents into madness, and unspeakable horror. It's a big galaxy and the story is yours to tell so why not go nuts with it?

Sounds like a good Explorer campaign.

You discover and ancient dead frozen world circling a dead sun in wild space after a catastrophic miss jump in hyperspace.

Wait, are those ancient ice locked cities down there......

I've always thought about trying to mix in Lovecraftian horror—bizarre alien creatures like Mi-go or spawn of Yog-Sothoth, descents into madness, and unspeakable horror. It's a big galaxy and the story is yours to tell so why not go nuts with it?

Sounds like a good Explorer campaign.

You discover and ancient dead frozen world circling a dead sun in wild space after a catastrophic miss jump in hyperspace.

Wait, are those ancient ice locked cities down there......

I completely just stole that! :lol:

"On a primitive jungle planet, the Predators introduce Alien eggs to infect the tall and strong natives, the Na'vis."

Why would they do that? They don't get Na'vi/Alien hybrids, they either get the Aliens that they already fight or they get Na'vis. It seems like the Predators would fight Aliens on the planets where Aliens already are, or they would fight Na'vis on the planets where Na'vi already are.

"Rather than accept defeat however, the Empire mining operation is moved to a nearby desert planet. Ruling the inhabitants with the usual iron fist, the Empire soon finds itself on the receiving end of Fremen attacks. Such is the ferocity of the attacks, which soon become coordinated as if led by a single individual rather than being random tribal attacks, that the Empire garrison is worn away to nothing."

I don't think this would be possible. The spacing guild was the only group with the ability to take a ship out into actual space and the Fremen in Dune bribed the spacing guild to mess up the satellites and otherwise not let anyone take a really close look at what was happening on Dune. The Empire has enough ships that they can orbit the planet, and if they see a giant worm with people on its back they just drop some ordinance from orbit and bomb the crud out of everything. Put a few heat tiles around a ton of iron and you can be sure that it won't get burned away as it falls from orbit, it'll be really cheap, and when it hits the ground it'll deliver the same kinetic energy as a nuclear explosion, so you don't even have to be very good with your targetting. In this world, the Empire is basically the spacing guild and the Harkonnen all at the same time, so normal Fremen tactics, where they cheated and bribed their way to success, won't necessarily work as well, because they can't play multiple sides against each other. So Paul Mua'dib is a Vulcan Force Sensitive now. That's great, but so what? That doesn't mean he can magically protect a whole planet from orbital bombardment. The Empire has the resources to watch the planet from the skies and shoot things down from a distance. The Fremen may get a weirding module, but stormtroopers have blasters, and better body armor, and the only time the stormtroopers in the movies were lousy shots was when their bosses ordered them to let the Princess escape, so that they could follow her to the Rebel base.

"After surviving an Alien in the chest, and witnessing the Aliens own fierce nature, the VIP decides to introduce the Aliens to the planet."

Why? There's this dangerous parasitic alien creature on planet X, so he's going to introduce it to planet Y because...? If he can't get rid of the Fremen himself (which, see above, shouldn't be the case), why would adding even more dangerous creatures make the situation better, how does he plan on protecting his people from the newly-introduced Aliens on the desert planet?

"Naturally a group of hunters who can fight through Na'vis, deadly wildlife and Aliens will attract the attention of the Predators."

This totally makes sense, namely the PC's fighting Predators -- run with it, it's a great idea. :D

Edited by CharismaticMechanic

Xenomorphs actually take on traits of the organisms they are born from. So if a facefugger infected a Na'vi, you would, in fact, get a Xenomorph with Na'vi traits.

Oh, ok, good to know. Then perhaps it would be the Predators who take Aliens and transplant them into the Fremen.

Excellent response here and I'm going to reply inside the post as best as I can. My replies will be in italicized bold writing so should be easily distinguished.

Some good points raised here that have made me think:

"On a primitive jungle planet, the Predators introduce Alien eggs to infect the tall and strong natives, the Na'vis."

Why would they do that? They don't get Na'vi/Alien hybrids, they either get the Aliens that they already fight or they get Na'vis. It seems like the Predators would fight Aliens on the planets where Aliens already are, or they would fight Na'vis on the planets where Na'vi already are.

Surprise! Predators capture Queens and introduce their eggs to planets so they can have a hunt.

Take a look at the Predator/Alien hybrid in the 2nd AvP movie and imagine an Alien born from the chest of a Na'vis. Here is a quote from the website I was looking at, but I'll provide a link there too:

Quote: Almost every Mother Ship holds a captive Xenomorph Queen, which the Yautja most likely release in an area for a Hunt.

Link: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Mother_Ship

"Rather than accept defeat however, the Empire mining operation is moved to a nearby desert planet. Ruling the inhabitants with the usual iron fist, the Empire soon finds itself on the receiving end of Fremen attacks. Such is the ferocity of the attacks, which soon become coordinated as if led by a single individual rather than being random tribal attacks, that the Empire garrison is worn away to nothing."

I don't think this would be possible. The spacing guild was the only group with the ability to take a ship out into actual space and the Fremen in Dune bribed the spacing guild to mess up the satellites and otherwise not let anyone take a really close look at what was happening on Dune. The Empire has enough ships that they can orbit the planet, and if they see a giant worm with people on its back they just drop some ordinance from orbit and bomb the crud out of everything. Put a few heat tiles around a ton of iron and you can be sure that it won't get burned away as it falls from orbit, it'll be really cheap, and when it hits the ground it'll deliver the same kinetic energy as a nuclear explosion, so you don't even have to be very good with your targetting. In this world, the Empire is basically the spacing guild and the Harkonnen all at the same time, so normal Fremen tactics, where they cheated and bribed their way to success, won't necessarily work as well, because they can't play multiple sides against each other. So Paul Mua'dib is a Vulcan Force Sensitive now. That's great, but so what? That doesn't mean he can magically protect a whole planet from orbital bombardment. The Empire has the resources to watch the planet from the skies and shoot things down from a distance. The Fremen may get a weirding module, but stormtroopers have blasters, and better body armor, and the only time the stormtroopers in the movies were lousy shots was when their bosses ordered them to let the Princess escape, so that they could follow her to the Rebel base.

No Paul Mau'dib. If he did turn up it would be, using your own comparison, a Rebel (aka Atreides) since the Empire are Harkonnen/Trading Guild. The Vulcan is the Force Sensitive, and is simply the one to unify the Fremen. No magic protection provided, just strong leadership.

I watched a three part TV version of Dune which, while not as good as the movie, did show the Fremen to be deadly desert fighters. One scene had them leap up out of the sand and slit throats and stab backs. Another scene had a Fremen sneak into an airbase, set up explosives, sneak out, then boom. That is how I pictured them fighting the Empire. Riding around on worms is more for point A to B movement across a desert when walking, and they do walk, isn't an option.

But I do get your point about the Spacing Guild. Even if they are excluded from my plans, what is to stop the Empire from pounding the planet from orbit? I shall have a think about that as all I can think of at the moment is a lame reason like "atmospheric interference". Even I think that's daft.

"After surviving an Alien in the chest, and witnessing the Aliens own fierce nature, the VIP decides to introduce the Aliens to the planet."

Why? There's this dangerous parasitic alien creature on planet X, so he's going to introduce it to planet Y because...? If he can't get rid of the Fremen himself (which, see above, shouldn't be the case), why would adding even more dangerous creatures make the situation better, how does he plan on protecting his people from the newly-introduced Aliens on the desert planet?

He's an idiot? You got me there, that does seem stupid now that I think about it. If the goal was just to kill the population and stuff the planet an orbital bombardment would do the trick. Sigh, I really didn't think that through. But let us just agree that "HE" is the idiot and not me :D Please

"Naturally a group of hunters who can fight through Na'vis, deadly wildlife and Aliens will attract the attention of the Predators."

This totally makes sense, namely the PC's fighting Predators -- run with it, it's a great idea. :D

My favourite part of my whole plan. Would make a cool game even the rest of my idea is a bit...ahem...far fetched.

Thank you for your well thought out response and I shall endeavor to counter or correct what you've pointed out as clear flaws in my plan.

I like my story plots to be believable. Even if they are a bit crazy...

...a lot crazy

Edited by Roy Stone