I just noticed in EtU pg62, a loadmaster is mentioned (under the explorer-class vessel's ships compliment)
Is this just a different term for the Cargo Master (mentioned in the Core Rulebook)?
or something different?

A loadmaster is a position, i.e., the person in charge of loading and unloading the ship.

A loadmaster is a position, i.e., the person in charge of loading and unloading the ship.

Correct...but is that different than a Cargo Master?

Ah, sorry, when you said 'Cargo Master' I thought you were talking about this:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Z-12_Cargo_Master_Speeder_Truck

Probably two different titles for the same job - the person responsible for the cargo and the loading/unloading thereof.

Generically they are synonymous. In current technical word usage Loadmaster would be the job title.

I need to ask... Why does it matter?

I need to ask... Why does it matter?

In the big scheme of things...it doesn't.

Just wanted to be clear on the intentions of FFG and whether or not it was a typo, a change of term, or a specific difference...

I need to ask... Why does it matter?

The Galactic Stevedore Union says it matters, so it matters. You don't want to mess with GSU Local 1000 by having a loadmaster doing a cargo master's work.

Generally they are responsible for the same thing but functionally they are a bit different.

This is a general explanation and there are always exceptions.

A Load Master generally means you are certified to load a certain platform, mostly referring to aircraft, ensuring weight distribution and that the load is properly tied down. But in the big scheme of things aircraft don't carry much cargo and it is usually one guy monitoring a couple other guys sliding on preloaded pallets. And also an aircraft's cargo tends to be all or nothing, ie all of it will be offloaded when they get to the destination.

A Cargo Master is generally seen on a ship where they measure cargo in tonnage and they may have loads from hundreds of different sources that ultimately with go tho hundreds of different destinations. When the ship makes port it will unload some but not all of its cargo while taking on new cargo. The Cargo Master has to juggle this constantly changing list to account for balance, weight/mass plus the need for access. He tries to shift things so the cargo that needs to be offloaded in the next port can be accessed as easily as possible. You want to avoid having to unload 50 containers to get to one and then reloading, or at least you try to minimize it. A Cargo Master usually runs a team of crewmen from the ship plus coordinates closely with the pier-side personnel.

Generally they are responsible for the same thing but functionally they are a bit different.

This is a general explanation and there are always exceptions.

A Load Master generally means you are certified to load a certain platform, mostly referring to aircraft, ensuring weight distribution and that the load is properly tied down. But in the big scheme of things aircraft don't carry much cargo and it is usually one guy monitoring a couple other guys sliding on preloaded pallets. And also an aircraft's cargo tends to be all or nothing, ie all of it will be offloaded when they get to the destination.

A Cargo Master is generally seen on a ship where they measure cargo in tonnage and they may have loads from hundreds of different sources that ultimately with go tho hundreds of different destinations. When the ship makes port it will unload some but not all of its cargo while taking on new cargo. The Cargo Master has to juggle this constantly changing list to account for balance, weight/mass plus the need for access. He tries to shift things so the cargo that needs to be offloaded in the next port can be accessed as easily as possible. You want to avoid having to unload 50 containers to get to one and then reloading, or at least you try to minimize it. A Cargo Master usually runs a team of crewmen from the ship plus coordinates closely with the pier-side personnel.

This is a facinating and thourough explination.

I still fail to see how it matters though. Dont get me wrong, I put a lot of effort into getting my games to be full of accuracy. But I am failing to see why you are even asking the question in the first place. Is it just idle curiosity? What situation are you imagining where the position of cargomaster/loadmaster could come up?

Mechanically they are just crew positions that require life support on the ship. I suppose that the differing amount of responsibilty would imply a differing rank if the ship in question were a military vessel. So if the players were taking hostages there would be a difference in a cargomaster and a loadmaster. There, I answered my own question.

Generally they are responsible for the same thing but functionally they are a bit different.

This is a general explanation and there are always exceptions.

A Load Master generally means you are certified to load a certain platform, mostly referring to aircraft, ensuring weight distribution and that the load is properly tied down. But in the big scheme of things aircraft don't carry much cargo and it is usually one guy monitoring a couple other guys sliding on preloaded pallets. And also an aircraft's cargo tends to be all or nothing, ie all of it will be offloaded when they get to the destination.

A Cargo Master is generally seen on a ship where they measure cargo in tonnage and they may have loads from hundreds of different sources that ultimately with go tho hundreds of different destinations. When the ship makes port it will unload some but not all of its cargo while taking on new cargo. The Cargo Master has to juggle this constantly changing list to account for balance, weight/mass plus the need for access. He tries to shift things so the cargo that needs to be offloaded in the next port can be accessed as easily as possible. You want to avoid having to unload 50 containers to get to one and then reloading, or at least you try to minimize it. A Cargo Master usually runs a team of crewmen from the ship plus coordinates closely with the pier-side personnel.

This is a facinating and thourough explination.

I still fail to see how it matters though. Dont get me wrong, I put a lot of effort into getting my games to be full of accuracy. But I am failing to see why you are even asking the question in the first place. Is it just idle curiosity? What situation are you imagining where the position of cargomaster/loadmaster could come up?

Mechanically they are just crew positions that require life support on the ship. I suppose that the differing amount of responsibilty would imply a differing rank if the ship in question were a military vessel. So if the players were taking hostages there would be a difference in a cargomaster and a loadmaster. There, I answered my own question.

Easy there turbo, please get a grip.

I get it, you don't care. But then you did not start the thread or ask the question. Kainrath asked a question and I shared what information I had that seemed relevant to the question that he asked.

The fact that you apparently don't think it is important gives you zero position to get all nasty with people.

Psst! Here is a secret, forums generally have hundreds of threads and generally there are MANY that have people discussing things I feel are idiotic wastes of time. When that happens you are allowed to 'not read the thread' and I simply don't read more or post comments that are deliberately confrontational on a subject that I find irrelevent. Wow, earth shattering isn't it?

So if the discussion is so troubling to you. Don't read it

But most of all, don't get all righteous and nasty because you may have been reminded that you are not the center of the universe........

Anyway, I now have a entry for my friend the ignore list. Awesome for my blood pressure.....

Generally they are responsible for the same thing but functionally they are a bit different.

This is a general explanation and there are always exceptions.

A Load Master generally means you are certified to load a certain platform, mostly referring to aircraft, ensuring weight distribution and that the load is properly tied down. But in the big scheme of things aircraft don't carry much cargo and it is usually one guy monitoring a couple other guys sliding on preloaded pallets. And also an aircraft's cargo tends to be all or nothing, ie all of it will be offloaded when they get to the destination.

A Cargo Master is generally seen on a ship where they measure cargo in tonnage and they may have loads from hundreds of different sources that ultimately with go tho hundreds of different destinations. When the ship makes port it will unload some but not all of its cargo while taking on new cargo. The Cargo Master has to juggle this constantly changing list to account for balance, weight/mass plus the need for access. He tries to shift things so the cargo that needs to be offloaded in the next port can be accessed as easily as possible. You want to avoid having to unload 50 containers to get to one and then reloading, or at least you try to minimize it. A Cargo Master usually runs a team of crewmen from the ship plus coordinates closely with the pier-side personnel.

This is a facinating and thourough explination.

I still fail to see how it matters though. Dont get me wrong, I put a lot of effort into getting my games to be full of accuracy. But I am failing to see why you are even asking the question in the first place. Is it just idle curiosity? What situation are you imagining where the position of cargomaster/loadmaster could come up?

Mechanically they are just crew positions that require life support on the ship. I suppose that the differing amount of responsibilty would imply a differing rank if the ship in question were a military vessel. So if the players were taking hostages there would be a difference in a cargomaster and a loadmaster. There, I answered my own question.

Easy there turbo, please get a grip.

I get it, you don't care. But then you did not start the thread or ask the question. Kainrath asked a question and I shared what information I had that seemed relevant to the question that he asked.

The fact that you apparently don't think it is important gives you zero position to get all nasty with people.

Psst! Here is a secret, forums generally have hundreds of threads and generally there are MANY that have people discussing things I feel are idiotic wastes of time. When that happens you are allowed to 'not read the thread' and I simply don't read more or post comments that are deliberately confrontational on a subject that I find irrelevent. Wow, earth shattering isn't it?

So if the discussion is so troubling to you. Don't read it

But most of all, don't get all righteous and nasty because you may have been reminded that you are not the center of the universe........

Anyway, I now have a entry for my friend the ignore list. Awesome for my blood pressure.....

INDEED.

I am sorry that the two of you felt I was being disbaraging. I did not mean any offence and apologise that I gave it. The reason I posted at all is because I am honestly curious about the reason you asked the question. Not because I was trying to argue with or demean you.

I was also honest when I said your explination was through and facinating. No sarcasm intended.

I am sorry.

I did some Googling. No career named cargo master in the world, just an old aircraft with that name. Guy/gal/being that is in charge of putting stuff/people on an aircraft is called a load master.

Perhaps a cargo master cares enough to know what fills a bay, while a loadmaster just wants the bay full.

I seriosly think that a cargo master is responsible for arranging, as well as loading, what a ship carries. While the load master is just responsible for loading and unloading.

One deals with the public, the other does not.

I did some Googling. No career named cargo master in the world, just an old aircraft with that name. Guy/gal/being that is in charge of putting stuff/people on an aircraft is called a load master.

The cargo master is mention on page 262, and 264 of the EotE Core Rulebook

Perhaps a cargo master cares enough to know what fills a bay, while a loadmaster just wants the bay full.

I seriosly think that a cargo master is responsible for arranging, as well as loading, what a ship carries. While the load master is just responsible for loading and unloading.

One deals with the public, the other does not.

Not Really, Neither has much contact with the 'public'.

Loadmaster...YT13000 size ship.
Cargomaster Trade federation donut bulk carrier size ship.

Loadmaster...YT13000 size ship.

Cargomaster Trade federation donut bulk carrier size ship.

Pretty Much.....