canon

By Kager, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

All of the movies, except for the Holiday special. Most of the Clone Wars CGI, except for the final arc of season 5 and any arc where Maul appears, though his role in the final Mandalorian arc is taken by a former Jedi who was believed killed when his fighter was shot down during a mission with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan and who blames Qui-gon and Obi-Wan for the lack of a rescue mission because they reported no one survived the crash after the pilot was knocked out by his injuries. (Cheesy I know but much better than Maul surviving being cut in half and the long fall IMO.)

How about that Jedi who was responsible for the creation of the Clone Troopers?

Instead of Dooku killing him, he was thought killed and "overlooked" returning to discover Dooku had replaced him and for revenge focused on the closest thing to family he thought Dooku had which by then was Obi-Wan as he was the padawan of Dooku's own padawan.

Of course he would be incensed his creation are being used against him but being perceived insane his stories of being betrayed would be largely ignored until Sidious comes for him and his new padawan, Savage who sought him out after discovering both Dooku and Ventriss were using him.

Still don't care for what happened to

Fives

though and the fact I'd even consider the Clone Wars animated series as canon is remarkable as I didn't much care for the prequels.

The Mandalorian arcs would take place on a world with a large number of people descended from Mandalorians. This avoids the massive clash with the Original Trilogy novelizations stating that the Jedi fought the Mandalorians in the war,though some clans and individuals will ally with the Republic for their own purposes. The Ryloth arc will take place on a world colonized by the Twi'leks rather than Ryloth itself thus involving clashing with the EU description of Ryloth's climate.

I originally thought when they called it the clone wars is because the Sith had cloned the virtually extinct Mandalorians with them used as the main army of an invading force Sidious used to whittle down the Jedi whilst turning events to his own advantage, which he did anyway...

I assumed those droids were used to counter the overwhelming forces as the Republic's own military was largely ceremonial ala Naboo with what mercenaries available being hired to protect the interests of say the Corporate Sector and those with the money to afford them leaving the rest of the Republic vulnerable.

1: I had never considered having Sifo-Dyas reappear as a villain but that's a great idea.

2: Yeah I hated what they did to Fives to but I knew as soon as he reappeared he was doomed.

3: Back before the Sith became the big bad guys of the universe I imagined the Clone Wars started as fighting between the Republic and the Clonemasters than the Mandalorians struck when they saw the republic weakened turning the conflict into a three way struggle. Of course I also thought that there were multiple Clone Wars and that the main ones ended more than 50 years before the PT Clone War began.

And I just found my pre-PT timeline

88 BBY=A mysterious fleet and army of Clones begins attacking the Republic. Disagreements among the Senate slow responses and many worlds are devastated. The Jedi Order joins the Republic military as officers.

73 BBY=The Republic forces discover the apparent base of the Clonemasters and destroy it. The first Clone War ends.

69 BBY-65 BBY=The Second Clone War=A new Clone army strikes. While originally believed to be remnants of the first Clonemaster forces the appearance of new ship types and Clone lines convince many this is a new force. Their base is discovered and destroyed but the bulk of the Republic military is redeployed to guard the regions where they have appeared in case a third Clone invasion comes.

62-50 BBY=The Third Clone War=A third Clone army, the largest ever seen, strikes the Republic but from the opposite direction of the previous Clone invasions. The Republic military hastily redeploys to meet the new threat but the Mandalorians take advantage of the chaos to launch an invasion of their own in 59 BBY. By the end of 54 BBY the Mandalorians are defeated and the Republic goes on the offensive against the Clonemasters.

But in 53 BBY a new Clone fleet strikes from their old bases and charges the Core. What few Republic ships will be able to redeploy to meet it have almost no chance of stopping it but a number of local defense fleets, merchants, conglomerates, nobles, and other citizens, including several pirate bands, pledge their ships to aid in the defense led by a charismatic young merchant captain known only as Palpatine. This force is joined by a handful of prototypes rushed through completion, including Y-Wings and Victory class Star Destroyers. The decision is made to meet the Clone armada over Alderaan and the hastily assembled fleet is placed under the command of a Jedi Knight and Republic commander Obi-Wan Kenobi, who was recovering from battle wounds on Alderaan and is made a General in the Alderaanian Royal Fleet. The clone armada is defeated but the rag tag defense fleet suffers severe losses. Despite this the Alderaanian allied forces pursue the retreating Clones to their base while the main Republic crushes the clone army opposing them and redeploys a fleet to attack both Clonemaster base regions.

30 BBY=Shortly before the twentieth anniversary of the end of the Third Clone war a mysterious fleet composed of a mix of Clone Wars era Clonemaster, Mandaliorian, and Republic vessels destroys a newly established Alderaniaan colony in the Outer Rim. It than broadcasts a message vowing that Alderaan will suffer the same fate as revenge for its role in the defeat of the Clonemasters, revealing its leader to be a member of one of the old Clone commander lines.

Alderaan calls on the Republic and its allies for help but a number of senators who dislike Alderaan, or its prominence in Republic politics after the Third Clone War petition to have the conflict declared an internal affair of Alderaan since so far only Alderaan and its colonies have been targeted. The current Chancellor, who narrowly avoided impeachment after an Alderaanian news agency found evidence of gifts being paid to her children by many shipwrights who had received recent Republic military contracts, throws her support to this group and all Republic military vessels are ordered to abandon the Alderaan system. Palpatine, now a senator but having spent most of the period after the third war in the Republic Navy and defeating a number of raider bands including Mandalorian remnant fleets, walks out of the senate in disgust and purchases a number of armed freighters, frigates, and corvettes from the shipyards at Kaut and Corellia than leads the resulting force to Alderaan.

There he joins the defense force assembled by the Alderaanian Royal fleet, the local fleets from a number of worlds friendly to Alderaan, a handful of combat capable vessels controlled directly by the Jedi Order, and several Republic warships which had reported either suffering malfunctions making hyperspace travel unsafe or accidentally traveling to Alderaan due to navigational errors. General Kenobi is again placed in command of the combined fleet with Senator Palpatine as his second in command In the ensuing battle. The clone fleet is defeated but its bombers manage to devastate a number of Alderaanian cities leading to the rise of a movement which scraps Alderaan's military claiming that the world wouldn't have been targeted if it had stayed out of the Clone Wars. Meanwhile the surviving ships of the Clone fleet begin raiding worlds throughout the Republic.

29 BBY=The officers and crews of the Republic ships which participated in the recent Battle of Alderaan are courtmartialed for failing to abandon the system with many found guilty and sentenced to life imprisonment. Its believed that the Chancellor personally selected the officers judging many of these courtmartials. Meanwhile the Jedi begin quietly purchasing a number of starfighters and warships to be ready should there be another case where the order's duty calls them to fight without Republic support. The battles with the raiding Clone fleet continue.

28 BBY=Palpatine is elected Chancellor and immediately issues full pardons to all Republic military personnel who participated in the Battle of Alderaan, and reinstatement in the Republic fleet. While some choose to return to their homeworlds many accept the offer and most are swiftly promoted.

27 BBY=The last remnants of the Clone fleet.are defeated. The conflict from 30 BBY to this point becomes known as the Fourth Clone War though most histories of the wars focus on the first three, and many ignore the last completely.

Palpatine urges the Senate to declare an Empire with him as the leader as an Empire would be able to better react to threats without senate debates. The senate agrees. Many local defense force units and ships go underground fearing that Palpatine would become a tyrant. The Jedi Order, sharing such fears, offers them sanctuary but convinces most of them not to attack the Empire yet, as the Jedi hope their fears are unfounded.

20 BBY=The Jedi finally accept that for the good of the galaxy the Empire has to fall after a rapidly increasing number of massacres committed by Imperial forces with no charges filed against the commanders who order the attacks. The Jedi and their allies plan a three pronged attack on Coruscant to arrest Palpatine and revive the Republic. The largest fleet will draw the planet's defense fleet out of position than smaller fleets will attack from the flanks and assault the planet while a number of ismall task forces with interdictors supported by frigates and corvettes are deployed along likely escape routes to capture Palpatine should he flee.

Unfortunately the Jedi Order is betrayed by a knight named Anakin Skywalker. He reveals the plan to the Empire and a massive Imperial fleet with its own Interdictors ambushes the main Jedi fleet minutes after it enters hyperspace from its staging area. The main fleet is shattered with less than ten percent of its forces managing to escape. Meanwhile the smaller assault fleets arrive at the Coruscant system to find fully deployed Imperial battlegroups waiting for them. Despite their obvious disadvantage many of the Jedi-allied ships try to carry out their mission, and many sections of Coruscant are damaged by wrecked ships crashing into the planetary shield and surface. In the end only five percent of the assault fleet, mostly support craft escape. While the interdictor task forces are never engaged only one in fifteen of the warships in the Jedi fleet are still combat worthy and with their staging areas seized the remains swiftly scatter. The Jedi are outlawed and the Jedi purge begins..

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@knassarll Oooh..you are very good sir.

I refute your title of Sir Hyperbole of Hyperbolia. I was constructing my argument using that which logically came to my mind for the interest of debate not to make cheap shots sir.

My point is that for me when it comes to the films it is an all or nothing deal. You can't merely pick the meat from the carcass you have to take the bones as well as indigestible as they may be. The writing of the prequels are not perfect, and I do disagree with them...but I still have references to people like Jar Jar and the Midichlorians because that's what appeared in the movies and to me is not up for debate.

Plus I have always had a problem with prequel haters, which is my own problem to deal with and this argument stems from that side of things. I've always felt that anyone who says "I am a Star Wars fan...but I only like the OT." is a little...stupid. In saying that you're essentially stating "I like 50% of Star Wars" which 50% is only half and I feel that at that point we could debate if you can say you like Star Wars if you only like 50% of it. However much smarter men than I have debated that issue and that issue will never ever be resolved.

However sir as I said, that is merely my opinion and this thread is all about exploring our various opinions of how we do things. We are adults, we can all agree to disagree.

I thought my argument was mostly sound, I thought wrong. Then again any argument can have a hole picked in it if you dig hard enough. Though I will admit I am offended by your titleing of me.

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@ Nimsim They don't, and they don't need to...the Midichlorians exist to somewhat scientifically explain how people connect to the force, it doesn't have to explain everything. They can measure how easy it is for someone to telekinetically move a ball with natural force ability than hard training. That's all I see Midichlorians as, a means of measuring potential. I don't see it as an 'exclusive club' or the be all to end all explanation of the Force and all it can do.

R2 acting on it is...I don't know if it is the Force, he definitely is in the right place at the right time, whether its the force is up for debate and I honestly don't care, while it is an interesting debate. I'm happy with the force being mystical with the Jedi having a measuring stick to see how much training they're gonna have to give the poor padawan with .01 Midi count. Point is that his count isn't .01, the point is that he works **** hard to learn the force and progresses to be a good Jedi yadayadayada.

Plus I have always had a problem with prequel haters, which is my own problem to deal with and this argument stems from that side of things. I've always felt that anyone who says "I am a Star Wars fan...but I only like the OT." is a little...stupid. In saying that you're essentially stating "I like 50% of Star Wars" which 50% is only half and I feel that at that point we could debate if you can say you like Star Wars if you only like 50% of it.

I have to say I like significantly less than 50% of Star Wars. The prequels and all of the EU is out. Maybe I'll pick somethings off their carcass now and then but, mostly, I pretend they don't exist.

My "canon"

Original movies + novels (so, there is more than one Sith Lord roaming around)

Radio Drama (so the "dark side" is how you use the force, not a selection of kewl powers)

The TIE Fighter computer game (cause it's awesome!)

Most of the newspaper comic strips since they are untainted by the EU.

The Han Solo Trilogy

That's pretty much it. If this means I'm not really a Star Wars fan then I'm ok with that.

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No no, you are a Star Wars fan...I just...its hard to explain in words the argument. There are different sects of media, Movies, TV, Comics, Books etc. They don't all contribute to the Star Wars craze because most of peoples exposure is to the movies and through those movies you expand into other stuff if you wish or don't wish.

You are a Star Wars fan because you 100% love what you love about Star Wars, it just differs from my perspective because of what I believe. All of this is subjective.

Ditto about the TIE Fighter game!

The first person I ever hear use the 50% argument is Kyle Newman who shot the very cool comedy film 'Fanboys'. He delves into a MUCH deeper argument that I do, I barely scratch the surface. Point is, I was stating a point of reference. I never said that that 50% made you less of a fan just that its odd to say you love something but only half of it. As I said, it is my own problem to deal with.

Any argument that leads to the result of "Oh but you are not a TRUE fan of...XYZ" is never good for exactly the same reason this thread exists, subjective ideas about what is Star Wars.

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Plus I have always had a problem with prequel haters, which is my own problem to deal with and this argument stems from that side of things. I've always felt that anyone who says "I am a Star Wars fan...but I only like the OT." is a little...stupid. In saying that you're essentially stating "I like 50% of Star Wars" which 50% is only half and I feel that at that point we could debate if you can say you like Star Wars if you only like 50% of it. However much smarter men than I have debated that issue and that issue will never ever be resolved.

Not sure if this will help you understand where some of us are coming from, but I'll give it a shot.

There was a related discussion at the EotE group I play with last weekend. One of our younger guys made a comment about Boba Fett and his exploits after escaping from the Sarlaac pit. My response was very lukewarm, which he took to mean that I didn't like the original BH. Towards the end of the night after play had wound down we had a chance to talk it over further, and I realized something I'd never quite hit on before when trying to explain this sort of thing.

Don't get me wrong, I *love* Boba Fett. I thought he was the coolest thing ever since the moment I laid eyes on that Mandalorian armor. I had the Kenner action figure that you had to send off proofs-of-purchase for, the whole bit. But when the EU brought him back... Sorry, but it just wasn't the same. Boba Fett was dead for a good fifteen years before he was hand-waved back into existence. Maybe the moment had changed or been lost. I was definitely a different person. But it felt cheap, artificial, a ploy for my money instead of my parents' by tapping into that wonder and excitement I had as a child.

Episode I was the same way. I was told to expect, "When I first met your father, he was the best starfighter pilot in the galaxy, and a cunning warrior." Instead I got a whiny kid and a pod race. Instead of, "He was afraid you'd follow old Obi-Wan on some **** fool idealistic crusade like your father did," I got chance cubes. In place of, "It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us; it binds the galaxy together," Lucas swapped in midichlorians. George, I'm glad someone you knew really enjoyed playing Parasite Eve, which had come out a year or two before, but I really could have done without a half-assed attempt to shoehorn it into the Star Wars universe.

Disappointment does not begin to cover it.

I first saw New Hope when I was four. It was the first movie I ever saw in a theater. Take something dear to you, something you've loved since you can ever remember, something that (it may sound cheesy, but it's true) has influenced you into becoming the person you are today. Take it out, polish it until it glows in your mind for two decades and change. Expand on what you've been told and what you love in that story in your mind and wonder what stories could still happen in that place.

Now watch as the creator of that thing you loved marks it up in the name of "new and improved," and expands exponentially on his "new vision that I'm going to claim was the old vision but it's a really probably not given the evidence" with a legion of writers whose collective respect to the original source is at best haphazard and inconsistent. There's that cheap, artificial ploy for your nostalgia dollars again. What do you do? Embrace the new no matter the cost? Reject the whole thing and move on? A lot of people I know took those options.

For me, though, I took what I loved about Star Wars and kept it near and dear to me. I accepted that the new material wasn't being written for me. I've surveyed a lot of it, but it's not a part of what Star Wars is to me. If it brings more people into falling in love with this story and this universe, then more power to it, but it will never have the same impact on me, and I'll never be completely comfortable with it.

End result? I like less than 50% of the Star Wars-related material out there. But I will love Star Wars until my dying day.

That's where we come from.

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Midichlorians never came up in our game. This duscussion got me to ask my GM/dad about them. He said he felt let down by the concept of them. So I asked if they were in our game.

He said yes but, so as to allow various points of view, whether this is true or not, in our game not everyone believed in midichlorians. We only see one person measured in the movies and despite his "off the scale" results, the Council wants nothing to do with him. It's also mentioned that the person who did the measuring (Quigon), as wise and effective as he may jave been, was something of a radical and probably would have been on the Council is he wasn't. In our game's history, his faith in midichlorians was just one of his radical beliefs.

I guess, in this way, you can have it both ways. If it should matter, my character is a scientist and would put her faith in the value of midichlorians. Personally, I prefer a more mysterious Force

@PrettyHaley

That's pretty much how I would run it, leave it up to the players to make their own judgement.

@Haggard

A very interesting and well put perspective sir, one I can respect.

I get that a lot of people of the original were disappointed and inconsistencies were awry. As for your specific examples, I just think it comes down to:

Out of universe: Someone reconsidering aspects of their narrative, which as a writer is within their right.

In universe: An old man clinging to his ideals to manipulate a youth onto the path of becoming a Jedi.

I can see how you see my way of doing things as 'handwaving' things into existence. Part of the fun I get out of all this is trying to make continuity fit like a jigsaw puzzle, and really I enjoy how it fits together sometimes.

Ever since seeing the prequels and The Clone Wars by extension it has made me appreciate the OT a lot more than I already did. That scene where Luke asks "How did my father die?" and Ben pausing before giving his answer gave it a whole new meaning for me. Yes it is shoehorning, I will admit that, however that's what all continuity is essentially. Especially for something as big and bombastic as Star Wars, not everything can fit exactly but with a bit of interpretation it can easily fit.

As I've said before, I don't take midichlorians to exist in place of the energy field but the cells within us that help us tap into that energy field and maybe make that energy field. To me it doesn't take away from the spiritual aspect at all because the spiritual remains with only a tiny bit of science behind it. Some would argue "But it is science fantasy". Well...maybe to you it is and that's okay, I just feel that Star Wars is nor science fiction or fantasy or space opera but it's own thing. The key thing is that it is fun and when I saw the OT, I had fun, when I saw the prequels, I had fun. Setting aside all the disappointment and taking it for what it was rather than what I expected to be.

That is also the inherent problem with sequels...you can't please people really, because everyone expects something different and for something as beloved as Star Wars, the prequels were never going to work because everyone had different ideas about how and where it would go. I think they work, many disagree, but that is my opinion.

I can't agree with Haggard more, so well said sir! I first saw Starwars when in 77 when I was 7 years old & those first images have stayed with me ever since & I still get excited whenever I hear that music!

I've read a fair about of the EU stuff & have to admit whilst I've enjoyed some, a lot has left me a little disappointed! I think the trick is to make your own canon, keep what u like & run with it.... Make your own "perfect" Star Wars universe! In mine The Clone Wars were fought by the Republic Clone Army against real people (human & alien) from the Separatist movement... Fighting droids was neither personal or epic enough for me!

I was 10 when A New Hope arrived in theaters (but we just called it Star Wars back then), and the prequels certainly nearly ruined it when they arrived. However, after watching them again wit ha very skeptical eye, and also watching Clone Wars on Netflix, I can appreciate them for what they are.

My personal Canon is:

All the films

Clone Wars (but not the Samurai Jack Clone Wars)

Rebels

Shadows of the Empire (novel)

The original Han Solo Trilogy

The original Marvel comics that precede RotJ (the ones that came after RotJ were total garbage)

Any new official material, including the new Marvel comics.

That's all.

Grimm...that is an attitude I also relate to, they aren't perfect...but you appreciate them for what they are and that they are there.

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What is YOUR canon?

Easy!

1) Did I like it?

2) Can I remember it?

If it meets those two criteria, it's canon. That means pretty much the 6 movies, the Marvel comics, anything Zhan writes and the X-Wing books.

In Episode I we are not told anything opposite, all we are told is that Midichlorians exist in all life and help us tap into the force.

Everyone always looks at the Midichlorian thing backwards - they're an effect not a cause. A person strong in the Force has a high Midichlorian count, not a person with lots of Midichlorians is strong in the force. It's like (and I remember someone pointing out that this was a flawed analogy last time I mentioned it, but just roll with it) - a person out in the sun and gets a dose of UV radiation, darkening his skin and not someone with dark skin adsorbs lots of UV rads.

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What is YOUR canon?

Easy!

1) Did I like it?

2) Can I remember it?

If it meets those two criteria, it's canon. That means pretty much the 6 movies, the Marvel comics, anything Zhan writes and the X-Wing books.

In Episode I we are not told anything opposite, all we are told is that Midichlorians exist in all life and help us tap into the force.

Everyone always looks at the Midichlorian thing backwards - they're an effect not a cause. A person strong in the Force has a high Midichlorian count, not a person with lots of Midichlorians is strong in the force. It's like (and I remember someone pointing out that this was a flawed analogy last time I mentioned it, but just roll with it) - a person out in the sun and gets a dose of UV radiation, darkening his skin and not someone with dark skin adsorbs lots of UV rads.

...what he said

I like your viewpoint on canon.

I had always thought, since Episode I, that a person strong in the Force had a high Midichlorian count. But as my mamma would say: "it's six of one and half a dozen of the other". Doesn't matter which way round you try to explain it, it still means the same thing. Lots of Midi = strong in force. Strong in force = lots of midis.

Which came first I wonder; the midiclorians or the Force.

From now on only the Disney films will be canon. I miss Jar Jar already

Ahh no that isn't what they said at all Orjo Creid.

Everyone always looks at the Midichlorian thing backwards - they're an effect not a cause. A person strong in the Force has a high Midichlorian count, not a person with lots of Midichlorians is strong in the force. It's like (and I remember someone pointing out that this was a flawed analogy last time I mentioned it, but just roll with it) - a person out in the sun and gets a dose of UV radiation, darkening his skin and not someone with dark skin adsorbs lots of UV rads.

By this reasoning, Anakin at age 8 has used the Force more than Yoda has at age 750+. After all, Anakin's midichlorian count is higher (if I'm remember that wretched scene in Episode I properly) than Yoda's. So since his "tan is darker," he must have "gotten out in the sun more." I find this idea fairly preposterous given their age difference and the fact that most of Anakin's associates on Tatooine think he's a gifted youngster at best. Even if I'm misremembering the exact comparison, the implication is that Anakin's count is higher than either Qui-Gon Jinn's or Obi-Wan's - two grown, fully trained Jedi Knights.

You're remembering right that Anakin's was higher than Yoda's

Anakin having a higher midichlorian count than Yoda doesn't mean that Anakin has used the Force more than Yoda. It simply means that Anakin is potentially stronger in the Force -- but as we all know, it's not the potential but how you use it that counts. Midichlorians are just a way of measuring this potential.

As for my EotE/AoR canon:

Pretty much everything on Wookieepedia except the things that are nonsensical or don't fit the feel of the Star Wars universe.

My campaign basically asks: What if a given background character from the Jedi Temple in Episode II survived Order 66? How does that change things?

I picked Olana Chion because her backstory was interesting, she was young enough to serve as a mentor figure in the present-day of my campaign (0-1 ABY), and she has/had some interesting ties with Obi-Wan and a rivalry with Anakin Skywalker.

So how does her survival affect the canon as presented? Well, still angered by Order 66 twenty years after the fact, she has renounced her pacifistic ways and instead actively seeks out candidates for Jedi training under the name of Serasana Antares. With Obi-Wan's death, he has come to her (much like he appears to Luke Skywalker) instructing her to re-form a Jedi Council so that they can better assist the Rebellion (and in turn receive protection from them, rather than wait alone to be hunted and killed). Her self-appointed mission is to find Force-sensitive individuals and Jedi-in-exile and bring them into the fold.

(She's basically doing what Luke would do in the canon after Episode VI.)

However, her interaction with the heroes (ie the PCs) has meant that her mission has been sidetracked; after bringing them on-board a survey mission scouting new worlds for a potential Rebel base, they discovered a lost Rakatan Star Map site that may point to a data repository holding the key to building a second Star Forge. Czerka Arms, the Empire, and the Rebellion all seek the plans for the Star Forge, but only the Empire knows its dark secret -- that it draws on the dark side of the Force.

So how does Luke fit in? Luke gets sent by Obi-Wan to Olana/Serasana as one of her pupils. This means he does not go to Dagobah and Yoda dies alone. Vader, frustrated that Luke practically disappears off the radar, takes his anger out on many of his captains and admirals.

Firmus Piett, fearing for his life after seeing Vader force-choke the life out of so many of his superiors and shocked by the destruction of Alderaan, decides that he's too proud to resign his commission but cannot in good conscience continue to serve the evil at the heart of the Empire. He becomes a double agent under the code name RESOLUTE, allowing the Rebellion to keep one step ahead of the Empire when it counts. Evenutally, with the ISB closing in on him, he decides to defect outright, depriving Vader and the Emperor of one of their top Captains.

(This is a softening of Piett's character but I think he'd make a great Rebel admiral.)

With a hole in the command structure of Death Squadron (namely the captaincy of the Executor), Vader summons Admiral Natasi Daala to fill that role. Her anger and rage at the Rebellion for killing her mentor and lover, Wilhuff Tarkin, with the destruction of the Death Star, makes her supremely suited for hunting the Rebellion wherever they may hide.

I think I might keep Crix Madine as the commander of the Storm Commandos, though. I think flipping the allegiance and motivations of Piett and Madine makes for a really interesting twist that makes a whole lot of other events very different.

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