WTF is a squint?!

By Bohrdumb, in X-Wing

TIE fighter: It's called Eyeball because of the cockpit.
TIE bomber: Dupe because it has two pods.
TIE interceptor: Trip 's short for Triple because of the three wings.
TIE advanced/avenger: Bright. Probably because they're high tech and stand out.
TIE interceptor: Squint . Pick up a TIE and hold it head on with the cockpit facing you and the wings in that H shape. That's an Eyeball. Now hold an interceptor in the same way. :P

As for the rebels, Y-wing's been called wishbone before. And then there's the DIE-wing fighter...
We can actually represent the DIE-wing with the stats we have now. 2 1 3 0 with a Y-wing manuver dial and no upgrade slots.

The Zann Consortium is balanced about as well as the Falcon would be if you put the peg under the cockpit. They tried to make them unique and did so by stripping out all the weaknesses of the other factions until they had a force that was more powerful than the Galactic Empire. I could go into great detail as to how but I'd be straying even further from the topic. Pretty much every FoC mod guts them in some way.
That being said, FoC's certainly got some ship material. It resurrected the Phantom which probably is how it got into X-wing, and I reckon we'll see the Starviper (Virago) at some point, and the Skipray Blastboat would be an excellent turreted Imperial ship. It's a nice looking one too.

When you think about it, every single ship in X-wing so far is in FoC except the E-wing.

Edited by Lagomorphia

I think Y wings are also called "bones" and B wings are "spinners".

Wookiee has "blade-wing" for the B-wing too, as both a nickname and as an alternative origin for its name. I see the dagger shape more than I see the b.

I think Y wings are also called "bones" and B wings are "spinners".

I seem to recall Y-Wings being referred to as "wishbones" in the X-Wing novels.

Edited by Gullwind

Eyeball = TIE Fighter

Squint = TIE Interceptor

Dupe = TIE Bomber

Bright = TIE Advanced

Trip = TIE Defender

Cross / Blade = B-Wing

Slim = A-Wing

Pointer / Snub = X-Wing

Wishbone = Y-Wing

Suicide Sled / Skull = Z-95 Headhunter

TIE fighter: It's called Eyeball because of the cockpit.

TIE bomber: Dupe because it has two pods.

TIE interceptor: Trip 's short for Triple because of the three wings.

TIE advanced/avenger: Bright. Probably because they're high tech and stand out.

TIE interceptor: Squint . Pick up a TIE and hold it head on with the cockpit facing you and the wings in that H shape. That's an Eyeball. Now hold an interceptor in the same way. :P

As for the rebels, Y-wing's been called wishbone before. And then there's the DIE-wing fighter...

We can actually represent the DIE-wing with the stats we have now. 2 1 3 0 with a Y-wing manuver dial and no upgrade slots.

The Zann Consortium is balanced about as well as the Falcon would be if you put the peg under the cockpit. They tried to make them unique and did so by stripping out all the weaknesses of the other factions until they had a force that was more powerful than the Galactic Empire. I could go into great detail as to how but I'd be straying even further from the topic. Pretty much every FoC mod guts them in some way.

That being said, FoC's certainly got some ship material. It resurrected the Phantom which probably is how it got into X-wing, and I reckon we'll see the Starviper (Virago) at some point, and the Skipray Blastboat would be an excellent turreted Imperial ship. It's a nice looking one too.

When you think about it, every single ship in X-wing so far is in FoC except the E-wing.

Thank you for the details, that was fun to read.

I didn't notice that for FoC, that is probably because I don't play the Zahn Consortium except for the campaign; the Empire was more interesting because it has the Executor Class SSD (in the campaign), the Tie Defender and Thrawn!

We need a nickname for the TIE Phantom.... what about a Blink?

There are no republic nicknames for the Phantom because not enough pilots see them and survive :P .

So maybe the "Looks clear... OH GOD FRANK JUST EXPLODED EVASIVE BOOOOOMMMMM".

(Entirely joking, not familiar with the portion of the EU the Phantom is from.)

There are no republic nicknames for the Phantom because not enough pilots see them and survive :P .

So maybe the "Looks clear... OH GOD FRANK JUST EXPLODED EVASIVE BOOOOOMMMMM".

(Entirely joking, not familiar with the portion of the EU the Phantom is from.)

To be fair, that's pretty much on the money.

That and the existence of the Phantom probably spanned a time period of about 1 month before Rookie One and Ru Murleen blew every one up and a very angry Emperor cancelled the programme. Not really time to give it a nickname.

Edited by Ktan

The Rebels are the ultimate spoil sports... never letting the Imperials have a decent chance to play with their new toys.

Blink sounds pretty good, though. I'd use it.

There are no republic nicknames for the Phantom because not enough pilots see them and survive :P .

So maybe the "Looks clear... OH GOD FRANK JUST EXPLODED EVASIVE BOOOOOMMMMM".

(Entirely joking, not familiar with the portion of the EU the Phantom is from.)

Its just been in two video games.

Lazy eye

Always someplace it's not supposed to be.

This thread is an excellent synopsis of how to get off topic. I for one vote that instead of nicknames we identify each Tie fighter by doing a slightly different Tie fighter scream.

Well, since this thread has been off-topic (and has since come back, but now I think I'm derailing it again), what does RAW stand for? I've seen people reference that (most recently in the Range Ruler Overlap Thread), in discussing rules and verbiage and whatnot. As well, what is the Rule of 11? I have no idea what either one of those are.

Thanks.

RAW - Rules As Written. Often to distinguish from RAI - Rules As Intended.

OMG, I feel sooo stupid. Thanks Gullwind!

As well, what is the Rule of 11?

Eyeball - Tie Fighter

Dupe - Tie Bomber

Squint - Tie Interceptor

Bright - Tie Advanced (Avenger)

Dont mean to nit pick but i belive the current Tie Advanced is the x1 its next step is the Avenger then the Tie defender... http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TIE_Advanced_x1

Vaders TIE Advanced is the X1, TIE Avenger is X2, TIE Interceptor is X3, TIE Defender is X7.

Excluding the customization done on Vaders own X1 as the number increase the ships pretty much get better.

X2 (Avenger) is flat out superior to the X1 in all ways.

The X3(Interceptor) is superior to the X2 when it comes to dogfighting because of the design of the engines and its manual thrust vectorying controls that alows delayed and or wide turns twist and dives, It actully states in SW Complete vehicles it is the Empies greatest dogfighter and in complete vehicles and vessel it is one of the greatest dog fighters of the Civil War. it has a much more advanced targeting computer than the X2. It is also very easy to customize esp compaired to the other Advanced craft. This might be one resaon imperial elite squadron picked it over the other advanced craft because the empire found it cheaper to custom taler a Interceptor for elite squadrons as aposed to giving them X2s and X7s (Besides the Interceptor being the best dog fighter unmoded). The X2 however is faster and has a sharper turn.

X7(TIE Defender) has a better reactor, super shields, its the fastest, has the best targeting computer that is only rivaled by the X3, has the sharpiest turning ability esp in Atmo. Its only draw backs are its field of veiw and huge size.

X4 X5 and X6 are on loan to the IOM. Apparently the Imperial NAVY is tired of using Interceptors that only have 50,000 pound thrust and require the crew to have their circulatory system be directly hooked up too the ship itself, man you got to love power outages ; )

Only Vader says x1.

The others say TIE Advanced, which is another name for the TIE avenger. The other two bits of evidence are Maarek Steele (a pilot most famed for flying the TIE avenger) is an Advanced pilot, and the stats for the TIE defender. The Avenger lies between the Advanced x1 and the Defender in power, and there isn't much space between them.

Well they could make it so it is the only Imp with beam weapons. Or give it a better dial than a Defender minus the white k.

This thread is an excellent synopsis of how to get off topic. I for one vote that instead of nicknames we identify each Tie fighter by doing a slightly different Tie fighter scream.

You know its funny but the Interceptor in ROTJ does sound diffrent than a Fighter most the time.

Edited by Black Knight Leader

hm... I always thought the Avenger is the better dogfighter than the Interceptor because the Tie-fighter PC game has it better than the Interceptor in both the speed and maneuverability quotient.

Edit: Looked it up, in the Tie Fighter: Stele Chronicles book (but not sure about subsequent games though)

Speed Maneuverability Hull Shield

X-wing p.64 100MGLT 75 DPF 20RU 50SDB

A-wing p.66 120MGLT 100 DPF 15RU 50SDB

Tie Interceptor p.76 110MGLT 125 DPF 20RU 0SDB

Tie Avenger p.82 145MGLT 150 DPF 20RU 100SDB

Wow, the Tie Avenger's stats are way above the Tie Interceptor's.

Edited by BattlePriest

hm... I always thought the Avenger is the better dogfighter than the Interceptor because the Tie-fighter PC game has it better than the Interceptor in both the speed and maneuverability quotient.

Edit: Looked it up, in the Tie Fighter: Stele Chronicles book (but not sure about subsequent games though)

Speed Maneuverability Hull Shield

X-wing p.64 100MGLT 75 DPF 20RU 50SDB

A-wing p.66 120MGLT 100 DPF 15RU 50SDB

Tie Interceptor p.76 110MGLT 125 DPF 20RU 0SDB

Tie Avenger p.82 145MGLT 150 DPF 20RU 100SDB

Wow, the Tie Avenger's stats are way above the Tie Interceptor's.

Going by sharpness of turns and the speed alone doesn't make it a better dog fighters unless that Avenger Pilot is only dog fighting hotdogs that will only try and turn in the same pattern as the Avenger.

Now take in mind their is more than dogfighting that these craft can do and its only Dogfighting that the Interceptor can do better. The irony is that The Interceptor is probably not the best Interceptor in the Empire.

Now like I wrote above the reason it is the best dogfighter has to do with how small it is, that it has the best targeting computer, its in the top class for sharp angles of attack, but most importantly it is the only one that alows that pilot to indiviually manipulate the direction of the thrust of each projector. Delayed manuvers are very important in dogfights in that you can force your enemy to over shot because you are not were you were supposed to be.

Here is an example. One thing that made F-14 so lethel in a dogfight was because the body of the craft itself could be used to trick enemys to over shoot into their sights. In joint training F-15s would go some times go head to head with F-14 in dog fighting range. F-14 driver could set the computer for the wing to manual and have the wings sweep back during a pass. The F-15 pilot would see this and assume they were making a high energy turn, something a F-15 can do better. The Tomcat driver would then set the computer back to auto and then do a tight low energy turn, something that F-14s do extermly well. The F-15 would be right in front of the F-14.

Oh and is makes me sad that the controls for the Interceptor can not be immulated in any sw dogfighting game unless you got yourself a stearling wheel. Hell might be better off hoping they make a custom TIE Interceptor stearing wheel for the next Tie Fighter X-Wing game if we ever get one. And I am not to thrilled about that since EA announced basically that all SW games they make will be alternate univese stuff from the sounds of it.

Ok, fair enough.

This is the first I heard about SW alternate universe, what is that about?

Do you mean EU?

Edited by BattlePriest

Ok, fair enough.

This is the first I heard about SW alternate universe, what is that about?

Do you mean EU?

They said they were not going be beheld back by the current canon and they are going to follow the current Batman games formula or canon and story telling. Which means a alternate universe. The only plus to this is that maybe they might some day countinue the infinites ROTJ story ark with the White Darth Vader fighting the Galactic Empire. I Kinda doubt it though.

I mean it could be cool but they basically have ended any new stories for the primary SW universe comming from the videogame media.

Oh ok, thanks. I thought the movies that Disney will release continues on the Primary SW universe... unless they want to make it like an alternate universe thing like the new J.J. Abrams Star Trek?

Edited by BattlePriest

Oh ok, thanks. I thought the movies that Disney will release continues on the Primary SW universe... unless they want to make it like an alternate universe thing like the new J.J. Abrams Star Trek?

Sorry it took me awhile to answer back. The movies are still canon and part of the primary universe it just the games made by EA sound like they will take place in a diffrent SW universe.