Hi all,

First post here and of course it's a build question. I'm a new player and playing against a buddy in our first ever 100 point game. Our fleets are pretty limited so I'm looking at a XXB build. This is what I've come up with so far.

Wedge +R2, PTL, and Hull upgrade

Garven

Ibtisam +HLC and PTL

I wanted to maximize TL and Focus in the same round. So Wedge shoots first with TL and focus. Ibtisam fires second with TL (add 1 extra re-roll with her ability) and focus. Garven fires with focus and dishes focus to either wingmate for defense purpose. My PS is high enough that I'm firing sooner rather than later. Wedge would clear his stress with the R2 unit. Ibtisam would have to clear with her limited dial. Seems like it would work. Would the 3 points for the hull upgrade on Wedge be better served elsewhere? Love to hear your thoughts and thanks for the look.

FYI...this game is awesome

Hi all,

First post here and of course it's a build question. I'm a new player and playing against a buddy in our first ever 100 point game. Our fleets are pretty limited so I'm looking at a XXB build. This is what I've come up with so far.

Wedge +R2, PTL, and Hull upgrade

Garven

Ibtisam +HLC and PTL

I wanted to maximize TL and Focus in the same round. So Wedge shoots first with TL and focus. Ibtisam fires second with TL (add 1 extra re-roll with her ability) and focus. Garven fires with focus and dishes focus to either wingmate for defense purpose. My PS is high enough that I'm firing sooner rather than later. Wedge would clear his stress with the R2 unit. Ibtisam would have to clear with her limited dial. Seems like it would work. Would the 3 points for the hull upgrade on Wedge be better served elsewhere? Love to hear your thoughts and thanks for the look.

FYI...this game is awesome

Dice can only be rerolled once. Therefore, Target lock removes the offensive benefit of Ibtisam's ability. However, you can still reroll a defense die.

Ibtisam fires second with TL (add 1 extra re-roll with her ability) and focus.

Unfortunately, the rules say you can only reroll any given die once, and that means Ibtisam's ability doesn't play nicely with Target Lock.

Garven fires with focus and dishes focus to either wingmate for defense purpose.

This also isn't the most efficient way to use Garven, since it only works against pilots on PS1-6, or even PS1-5 depending on initiative. Sometimes that isn't a problem, but against an opponent running (for example) Soontir Fel, it means your extra defense isn't available at the time you need it most.

So I would indeed drop the Hull Upgrade, and use those extra points to rework the list like this :

Wedge Antilles (29)

Push the Limit (3)

R2 Astromech (1)

Luke Skywalker (28)

Draw Their Fire (1)

R2-D2 (4)

Dagger Squadron Pilot (24)

Fire-Control System (2)

Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

Total: 99

Your pilot skill before was 9/6/6, and now it's 9/8/4, which should be about as effective. Wedge still gets to stack focus and target lock for his attacks, Luke can target lock for his offense and still gets an extra pseudo-focus on defense, and although you lose out on Ibtisam's ability, the Dagger will often be able to attack with focus and target lock anyway due to the Fire Control System.

FYI...this game is awesome

Yep.

But with PTL on her, she can still TL+BR, and then get a focus from Garven for offense. Or once Garven goes down, she can F+BR+Ibby reroll for a pseudo TL.

It's not a bad list, but not a great list either. I would consider dropping Garven for Biggs. He's not really providing much of an offensive boost (assuming you're not bumping Wedge/Ibby) since everyone else has PTL already. And Biggs would provide a better defensive ability than Garven's extra focus does, since they'll be forced to fire at him instead of Wedge/Ibby. Note, a good way to use Biggs is to force them to split their fire and not focus fire either Wedge or Biggs... This is accomplished by having Biggs in some of their arcs, but not all of their arcs. The ones in arc must shoot him, the ones out of arc can't shoot him... so you end up with 2 semi injured X wings. In that case, I'd put the HU on Biggs.

I don't know if you're allowing yourself to proxy cards, but I would consider AdvS and EU on Ibby instead of HLC, or AdvS on Ibby + EU on Wedge instead of HLC. This would make it harder for Biggs to cover them, but once he drops, it'll make it easier for them to stay out of arc, or zooming in for that deadly R1 + TL shot.

If I may suggest Opportunist on Ibtisam here. You have two pilots that can shoot first and Opportunist gives her the stress she needs to trigger her ability. 5 dice HLC plus focus? Nasty.

If I may suggest Opportunist on Ibtisam here. You have two pilots that can shoot first and Opportunist gives her the stress she needs to trigger her ability. 5 dice HLC plus focus? Nasty.

I assumed Opportunist wasn't an option for you [edit: meaning the OP, not R2ShihTzu], but if it is I'd absolutely recommend it. That list might look like this instead:

Wedge Antilles (29)

Push the Limit (3)

R2 Astromech (1)

Luke Skywalker (28)

Ibtisam (28)

Opportunist (4)

Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

Total: 100

If I may suggest Opportunist on Ibtisam here. You have two pilots that can shoot first and Opportunist gives her the stress she needs to trigger her ability. 5 dice HLC plus focus? Nasty.

I assumed Opportunist wasn't an option for you, but if it is I'd absolutely recommend it. That list might look like this instead:

Wedge Antilles (29)

Push the Limit (3)

R2 Astromech (1)

Luke Skywalker (28)

Ibtisam (28)

Opportunist (4)

Heavy Laser Cannon (7)

Total: 100

Definitely going to test this list.

I assumed Opportunist wasn't an option for you, but if it is I'd absolutely recommend it. That list might look like this ...

Definitely going to test this list.

I'm not totally sold on using Luke, since I think Garven might be a better choice to buff Ibtisam's offense. I just don't know what to do with the last 2 points in that case--maybe a Flechette Torpedo, once the Transport is released?

I assumed Opportunist wasn't an option for you, but if it is I'd absolutely recommend it. That list might look like this ...

Definitely going to test this list.

I'm not totally sold on using Luke, since I think Garven might be a better choice to buff Ibtisam's offense. I just don't know what to do with the last 2 points in that case--maybe a Flechette Torpedo, once the Transport is released?

Garven+R2-D6+Veteran Instincts?

If I may suggest Opportunist on Ibtisam here. You have two pilots that can shoot first and Opportunist gives her the stress she needs to trigger her ability. 5 dice HLC plus focus? Nasty.

Oh I like this. Yes we are for the time being allowing proxy cards. Little more difficult with ships or I'd be looking at Y-Wings somewhere in there. Thank you all for the replies. I have a feeling I'll be experimenting allot over the weekend at various XXB builds. In my limited amount of time playing I've seen the power of the focus. So I wanted to really capitalize on that paired with TL. Ibby's stress ability would then be assigned to defense. I still like Garven passing the focus for defense. And going to her would allow roll, re-roll, spend focus token right? But I'd be in trouble against those higher PS Imps. I had built a list with Biggs, but I'm fairly new at flying and worried about keeping him in proximity to wingmates and enemies. I will defiantly try it though. That along with EU and Adv S which I haven't tried yet. The Luke list is interesting because he's so dang hard to kill and he can TL almost non stop. Crazy to think with only 3x ships you have that many options. That's why I wanna stick to the scum. If i flew the imps, I'd go crazy and poor. Good job to FFG.

Nickotine42, welcome to the game and the crazy world of the forums here.

If you haven't checked them out yet, take a look at The Metal Bikini , Team Covenant , and either or both of the main squad building pages here and here . They're all good sources for tactics, ideas and just killing a few hours.

But share them with your friend too for fair play (but maybe wait a day or two first)

Fly casual!

Thanks for the welcome. I've been lurking here and there for a couple weeks. I'm sure I've killed more than a few hours lol.