These seem to be two very simple questions which I expect answers already exist many times over, but I can't seem to find it.

1: Distance is measured from the plastic base to plastic base, correct? With large ships, the card arc doesn't go to exactly the corner of the plastic base when measuring arc, so we were curious about that.

2: When measuring arc, you go closest point to closest point WITHIN the arc, correct? So even though the portion of a ship outside the arc may be at range 1, the point within the arc is at range 2, so you're in range 2. Correct?

Thanks

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I would say that you are correct on both points. As far as the minor discrepancies on the printed arcs, the angles should still be correct even if the base chit is slightly miss-cut.

1: Distance is measured from the plastic base to plastic base, correct?

Yes it's the plastic base that counts.

2: When measuring arc, you go closest point to closest point WITHIN the arc, correct?

Yes, here's the section of the rules that addresses that.

Then point the ruler toward the closest part of the target ship’s base that is inside the attacker’s firing arc.

Hang on a second, are you saying that I ignore the actual arc markings on the pilot cardboard base and measure from the corner of the PLASTIC base to the corner of the plastic base? Because those ship cards don't fit perfectly into those bases, especially in the big ships. Do I go diagonally from corner to corner on the plastic base itself?

Do I go diagonally from corner to corner on the plastic base itself?

No you go with the printed arc lines on the cardboard tile.

Do I go diagonally from corner to corner on the plastic base itself?

No you go with the printed arc lines on the cardboard tile.

You're sure on this? Is there a rule that states this? I'm just double checking because now I'm a little confused.

Excluding turrets and the YT-1300 primary weapon, you always use the printed firing arcs on the cardboard pieces to determine range and whether or not a ship is in your firing arc.

People seem to be mixing up firing arc and measuring range. Range is measured to and from the ship's base. The rulebook identifies the base as the plastic, well, base. The base has a cardboard insert called a ship token. The ship token defines the ships firing arc and has nothing whatsoever to do with range, it just defines the imaginary lines that extend outward and define the ships arc of fire.

People seem to be mixing up firing arc and measuring range. Range is measured to and from the ship's base. The rulebook identifies the base as the plastic, well, base. The base has a cardboard insert called a ship token. The ship token defines the ships firing arc and has nothing whatsoever to do with range, it just defines the imaginary lines that extend outward and define the ships arc of fire.

Let me clarify, just in case my statement caused any confusion. Yes, use the plastic base to measure distance. Use printed arcs to determine "firing arc". I was trying to impress upon the OP that measuring from a point outside a ship's firing arc to determine range for the purpose of firing at them is irrelevant, excluding YT-1300's primary weapon and turrets.

With large ships, the card arc doesn't go to exactly the corner of the plastic base when measuring arc, so we were curious about that.

With small ships, it does not go to the corner of the plastic base either. That is by design.

Firing arcs are about 80°. Not 90°.

Got it. Last question regarding range. Do the nubs count on a bomb? I was pretty sure that the nubs do NOT count on the base of the ship for range, but someone told me that they DO count on a bomb. Is that right?

Straight from the FAQ, page 2:

Q: Are a bomb token’s movement guides considered when measuring range or when a ship overlaps them?
A: Yes.

Hope it helps!

Excellent. Thanks for all your help.

The rulebook says to ignore them for determining firing arc and range, in all other cases the nubs are part of the base.

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For bombs the movement guides count for range. But for a ship the guides do not count for range.