So me and a friend are going to make lists for each other. As we both want to win the lists will be as bad as possible. He will play Empire and I get Rebels.

Rules:
- Point limit is 99-100
- No upgrades may be taken that give a same effect twice. (A double navigator or Targeting computer plus tie advanced for example.)

I have created the following from what he has (He has the starter box, tie interceptor, tie fighter, firespray, falcon, tie avanced, 2 bwings, imperial aces) . :
Boba Fett+ Cluster Missiles + Autoblaster + Daredevil + Mercenary co-pilot + Slave-1 + Shield Upgrade + Advanced Proton Torpedoes (63)

Soontir Fel + Royal Guard TIE + Marksmanship + Shield upgrade + Targeting computer (36)

Updated version:
http://community.fantasyflightgames.com/index.php?/topic/103355-level-up-the-suck/?p=1041854

Can you upgrade this list further into the negative or make an even worse list?

(Remember too only use cards and ships he has.)

Expose over Daredevil. On both pilots?

Expose over Daredevil. On both pilots?

Expose, definitely. Overpriced and rarely very useful.

Expose on Soontir would be an option, but dare devil on boba just makes the ability feel useless. (edit: He only has 1 expose looking at his expansion sets, or does the firespray give you 2?)

Daredevil is pretty useful... But I suppose without an engine upgrade it is pretty crappy.

Well, for starters, I would drop Fel, as that's a relatively good setup (given expensive).

Darth Vader (29)

Opportunist (Assuming he can proxy it in since he doesn't have imp aces) (4)
Shield Upgrade (4)

Assault Missiles (I'm assuming he's going to build you a 2-3 ship list) (5)

Total 41/40

Boba Fett (38)

Expose (4)

Assault Missiles (5)

Engine Upgrade (4)

Prox Mines (3)

Saboteur (2)

Total 57

Squad total 99/98

If you can't use Opportunist, you could replace it with Expose I suppose, and that way you could keep it at 100 points. I'm not too sure that I didn't violate any other cards though.

Oops, he has imperial aces. Missed that.

Vader feels good however due to his 2 actions and hitpoints. Soontir can only gain a focus by K-turning, making him way more fragile.

Its pretty hard to make completely useless stuff right?

Yeah, 2 actions and health... but he won't be able to do any damage with those 2 attack, and no way to really boost that. The assault missiles will likely be useless because he'll build you a 2-3 ship list as well, and there's very little reason for you to run them together. Boba Fett on the other hand, is paying 13 points worth of action based upgrades... and he only has 1 action to use any of them. This is not including the assault missile which requires a TL action.

The thing with Vader is that he has no offensive punch. I'd be going the cluster missile route over Assault, and would always take Expose over Opportunist while trying to suck(due to it taking an action.) I expect you'll se a list of heavily upgraded A-Wings, turretless Y-Wings, and turretless Hwk's. Take that into account. I'ld be leery of putting anything with 3 Defense Dice on the table...

Its pretty hard to make completely useless stuff right?

For the empire: yes

For rebels: no

The thing with Vader is that he has no offensive punch. I'd be going the cluster missile route over Assault, and would always take Expose over Opportunist while trying to suck(due to it taking an action.) I expect you'll se a list of heavily upgraded A-Wings, turretless Y-Wings, and turretless Hwk's. Take that into account. I'ld be leery of putting anything with 3 Defense Dice on the table...

Turretless HWK is just mean. That should be illegal as well. The thought behind opportunist, is that since Vader shoots first, you should almost always have a token, especially with few ships on the board. Expose is actually moderately useful on Vader since he has a second action. At R1, 3FTL = 2.81, 4F = 3.00... At R2-3, 2FTL = 1.88, 3F = 2.25... So Expose is actually an offensive boost for Vader since he has a second action to supplement it.

Well I made a list on what I could get.

Horton 2x APT, Ion turret, engine upgrade.
Ten Nunb, 2x APT, marksmanship, engine upgrade.

Or as you said, stupendus upgraded A-wings (and Y-wings).

(Edit: What I have can be found in my link.)

I expect you'll se a list of heavily upgraded A-Wings, turretless Y-Wings, and turretless Hwk's. Take that into account. I'ld be leery of putting anything with 3 Defense Dice on the table...

Turretless HWK is just mean.

Do not have any turd looking ships

Then again, he does not have bombers, so thats equal footing

Maarek Steele - Assault Missiles, Expose, Engine Upgrade

Boba Fett - Assault Missiles, Autoblaster, Daredevil, Engine Upgrade, Flight Instructor

Seems pretty useless to me!

Maarek Steele - Assault Missiles, Expose, Engine Upgrade

Boba Fett - Assault Missiles, Autoblaster, Daredevil, Engine Upgrade, Flight Instructor

Seems pretty useless to me!

No shuttle for flight instructor. Plus it's actually decent. Also, you gave boba tons of maneuverability plus a deadly R1 weapon. Switch EU for SU and then you've gotten rid of the maneuverability. I like Maarek though.

How is an auto blaster a deadly ranged 1 weapon against rebels? A wings fly around the R1 and B/Y meh. For X wings it would be annoying.

Great stuff however, keep it coming!

Maarek Steele - Assault Missiles, Expose, Engine Upgrade

Boba Fett - Assault Missiles, Autoblaster, Daredevil, Engine Upgrade, Flight Instructor

Seems pretty useless to me!

No shuttle for flight instructor. Plus it's actually decent. Also, you gave boba tons of maneuverability plus a deadly R1 weapon. Switch EU for SU and then you've gotten rid of the maneuverability. I like Maarek though.

Ok keep Maarek but Boba with Assault Missiles, Ion cannon, Opportunist, Hull Upgrade, Proximity Mines and Darth Vader

I think I have y'all beat.

I call it: Critical Mistake

Kath Scarlet w/ Darth Vader, Daredevil, Stealth Device, and Ion Cannon

Maarek Stele w/ Expose

Winged Gundark w/ Engine Upgrade

I can't think of any lists right now (I've been awake ALL NIGHT LONG!~) but you can always throw a Stealth Device on any ship that has a default agility of 1. That's a perfect waste of 3 points right there.

Edit: okay, some lazy ones, I dunno if they're really that bad, to be honest.

Gold Squadron Y-Wing, Stealth Device, Blaster Turret x4

Black Squadron TIE/ln, Targeting Computer, Expose x5

Avenger Squadron TIE/IN x5 (I'm not sure if this one should count, but it doesn't have much going for it...)

Prototype Pilot A-Wing, Ion Pulse Missile x5 (Zippy but weak)

If it was me I'd make you fly 6 rebel operative hwks

Another option would be a random draw of pilots and upgrades. Then make what you can of your list. We've only done this once but the points were surprisingly even. The upgrades however were not an optimal pick of what I would have liked, LOL. Still fun though. We would do this more if it was not such a hassle to organize your cards after the bit mix up.

I submit for your consideration:

Maarek Stele - Daredevil (30)
Major Rhymer - Daredevil - Proximity Mine (32)
Gamma Squadron Pilot - Cluster Missiles (22)
Winged Gundark (15)

99pts.

Lovin' all the reactions that people give, but I am bound to what he has. This can be found in my first post.

Have him run a single academy pilot and the other 88 points are his initiative bid lol.