Couldnt find this question anywhere else but if you use Heavy Laser canon when do you turn the crits to hits? before or after re-roll effects like spending a Target Lock or Krasis or Ct. Jonus abilities?
the way it reads any Crits from re-rolls do not get changed to hits as it seems like a 1 time triggered ability rather than saying something to the effect of "when a crit is rolled whenever using HLC change it to a hit"
if you look in the rule book it breaks down the sections of combat phase, off the top of my head I think its part three where you modify the attacking dice including any focus, or positive/negative effects that change your attacking dice, this is where you would modify them, your making the attack with HLC even if you modify the attack with target look, you would change any of the target locked crits to a hit at the end of the modifying attacking dice part
if you look in the rule book it breaks down the sections of combat phase, off the top of my head I think its part three where you modify the attacking dice including any focus, or positive/negative effects that change your attacking dice, this is where you would modify them, your making the attack with HLC even if you modify the attack with target look, you would change any of the target locked crits to a hit at the end of the modifying attacking dice part
This is incorrect.
The HLC is not a standard dice-modifying ability. It's an effect which is triggered "Immediately after rolling your attack dice..." That means that the HLC modification happens before the defender gets to modify attack dice, but then everything runs normally.
This obviously matters for the attacker, but might also for the defender. For example, the Sensor Jammer changes a {Hit} to an {Eyeball}, but can't do anything with {Critical Hit} results. If the HLC modified as normal timing, you might roll 4 {Critical Hits}, the Sensor Jammer could do nothing, and then you'd change them to {Hits}. But because of the order, you roll, immediately change them all to {Hit} results, and then the defender gets his chance to modify the results, so the end result is 3 {Hit} and one {Eyeball} results.
if you look in the rule book it breaks down the sections of combat phase, off the top of my head I think its part three where you modify the attacking dice including any focus, or positive/negative effects that change your attacking dice, this is where you would modify them, your making the attack with HLC even if you modify the attack with target look, you would change any of the target locked crits to a hit at the end of the modifying attacking dice part
This is incorrect.
The HLC is not a standard dice-modifying ability. It's an effect which is triggered "Immediately after rolling your attack dice..." That means that the HLC modification happens before the defender gets to modify attack dice, but then everything runs normally.
This obviously matters for the attacker, but might also for the defender. For example, the Sensor Jammer changes a {Hit} to an {Eyeball}, but can't do anything with {Critical Hit} results. If the HLC modified as normal timing, you might roll 4 {Critical Hits}, the Sensor Jammer could do nothing, and then you'd change them to {Hits}. But because of the order, you roll, immediately change them all to {Hit} results, and then the defender gets his chance to modify the results, so the end result is 3 {Hit} and one {Eyeball} results.
I was talking about target locking effecting the HLC not the defender
even if you modify the attack with target look, you would change any of the target locked crits to a hit at the end of the modifying attacking dice part
I was talking about target locking effecting the HLC not the defender
That part is incorrect as well.
The HLC affects only the initial die roll. Any rerolls after that don't trigger it again. This is addressed in the FAQ.
Sweet good to know it works the way I thought it did, Thanks
Then you put marksmanship on the pilot to get a crit from a heavy laser cannon.
Q: If a ship attacks with Heavy Laser Cannon, can it modify attack dice to get a result?
A: Yes. All critical hit results on attack dice are immediately changed to hit results after they are first rolled, and then the dice may be modified as normal
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