Synergy versus Swarm

By aknorthroader, in X-Wing

Been scouting the different lists and have been seeing more basic ships or swarms versus named ships that gave synergies to each other. I was wondering if anyone had ran the below group. It is capable of handing target locks and focus around, but not really capable of the alpha strike.

Dutch with photon and ion cannon

Ibtisam with advanced sensors and PTL

Kyle Katarn with Moldy, Recon, Ion cannon.

w 2 point remaining.

with Dutch and Kyle disrupting flight paths and Ibtisam picking off one at a time, it seemed like a decent control and conquer group.

thoughts?

The low agility values would worry me if I had to use this list and the lack of decent firepower. Having focus and TLs is good but without a decent weapon system to benefit from this you are just "nibbling" at targets. If you dropped the proton torpedo you could get an Advanced Proton Torpedo for Ibtisam. Another option is to go with three ion cannons to try the "slow kill" play.

Those 3 ships have horrible maneuvers, and would be difficult to keep them close enough to use their synergies. Yes, the ion cannon helps, but any 4+ ship build will probably beat this list.

You also lose a big chunk of synergy if you lose a ship and you lose a lot if firepower if Ibtisam dies (I would kill him first if I were playing against this squad). I have tried action passing lists before and they're good until any one ship dies, then it's over quick.

I've run Kyle/Dutch/Garven (I call it the Number of the Beast) with some success. Also, with everyone having the same pilot values, it's easy to fly without screwing up.

I ran a Kyle/Garvin/Ibi list.

Ibi was loaded, Kyle had his normal setup with recon and blaster turret, Garvin had little to nothing. Was pretty good, Ibi went first, but Garven and Kyle worked very well together too

Dutch + Garven is typically considered better than Dutch + Kyle as far as synergy goes, as Garven operates similarly, and requires fewer points to become an actually worthy ship (i.e. None).

Dutch + Garven/Kyle + ____________ is almost always a great list, though.
The problem with Synergy lists is wondering what happens when the combo is depleted.
If you're running Dutch+Garven+Rookie+Rookie, for example, your foe will NEVER target the Rookies first, even though they go down as easily as does Garven.

That being said, I wonder if a 150 - 200 point fleet featuring Kyle, Dutch, Garven, Airen, and Lando would be workable... and how fun it would be.

Ibtisam . . . (I would kill him first if I were playing against this squad).

Her . Ibtisam is a female Mon Calamari.

I've had a lot of success with Lando/Kyle/Dutch. Take it slow and steady, handing off actions to each other so each ship fires with focus and a target lock each turn. All three ships have turrets, so firing arcs aren't an issue. Seems to work pretty well.