Is it cheating to watch your opponents hand movements during the planning phase? After all some of us have the ships dial and movements memorized. This would apply only after the first turn of course. I always do a couple of extra spins just in case for myself.

No.

Is it cheating to watch your opponents hand movements during the planning phase? After all some of us have the ships dial and movements memorized. This would apply only after the first turn of course. I always do a couple of extra spins just in case for myself.

It's... borderline at best, I think. Dials are supposed to be hidden information, so anything that makes them less hidden is against the spirit of the rules even if it's allowed by the letter.

And I also usually give my dials a couple of random spins before I start setting them, for this very reason.

Is it cheating to watch your opponents hand movements during the planning phase? After all some of us have the ships dial and movements memorized. This would apply only after the first turn of course. I always do a couple of extra spins just in case for myself.

I do the same thing. Extra spins to make sure. Sometimes I even pick it back up and move it around again to make sure.

Nope. Dial selection/placement is done in the open. If you can intuit your opponent's selections because they're not taking sufficient precautions with their dials, good on you.

That's why I usually do a couple back and forth spins before locking in my selection. I do so love it when people pick up their dials, look at them, and place them with no change whatsoever. Second verse, same as the first, amirite?

Cheating? No. Are you a bit of an ass for trying to do it, yeah kind of.

Is it cheating to watch your opponents hand movements during the planning phase? After all some of us have the ships dial and movements memorized. This would apply only after the first turn of course. I always do a couple of extra spins just in case for myself.

It's... borderline at best, I think. Dials are supposed to be hidden information, so anything that makes them less hidden is against the spirit of the rules even if it's allowed by the letter.And I also usually give my dials a couple of random spins before I start setting them, for this very reason.

I think I caught one guy doing it to me before and used it against him. Lol odd look on his face and a smile on mine .

Given how often I screw up my left and my right and have to change it, I defy anyone to predict what I do.

Cheating? No. Are you a bit of an ass for trying to do it, yeah kind of.

I never tried it. I simply base my strategy on guesstimating movement based of if my opponent is an idiot or not.

I don't think it is even by the strictest definition of cheating because your opponent is volunteering that information.

Conversely, its good sportsmanship to tell them about their "tell" so they can start to cover it a bit. Please tell them.

This is just something I was wondering about . Let it be clear I don't encourage or promote such actions. Besides any relevant maneuvering is clearly done with boost/barrel roll or daredevil.

It depends. If you are waiting till the opponent finalizes all their dials before you start setting yours, or reset all your dials after they are done, at the very least an argument can be made for stalling.

Cheating? Not at all. It is like lipreading in football. (1) That's why coaches cover their mouth.

(1) American football, not soccer.

_{Haha I actually was thinking of that the other day}

If you play David Caruso and can read the reflection of his dials off his mirrored Raybans, is that cheating?

I mean, if I see you pick up a dial and put it back down without turning it, I can't help but know what you did. It isn't my fault if my opponent doesn't try to hide what they are doing

Cheating? I expect it! This is why I ALWAYS hold the dial at odd orientations (rarely right side up) and put in a few extra spins.

I just close my eyes really tight, give my dial a few extra spins, stop, place it facedown and hope for the best

It depends. If you are waiting till the opponent finalizes all their dials before you start setting yours, or reset all your dials after they are done, at the very least an argument can be made for stalling.

And if it's a friendly game then that's just a sad way to play.

If you play David Caruso and can read the reflection of his dials off his mirrored Raybans, is that cheating?

cheating is when they use an a wing dial with a x wing top on it, foreward green 5 for my next x wing move.

cheating is when they use an a wing dial with a x wing top on it, foreward green 5 for my next x wing move.

LOL, A-wing Dial for Luke with R2-D2!

To tell the truth, I never though of looking at people's hand movements when doing the dial (now it is in my head... arrrgh).

I don't consider it cheating if you want to figure out where they are moving to.

I would however believe that this would be just as a relevant question: Is it un-sportmanship to look at your opponent's hand movement while "dialing"?

Cheating is such a strong word for it... But I do tend to overspin my dials just to be safe. And even then I usually screw something up putting them down.

But I did have to point out to one of the guys I was playing with last night he needs to stop fingering the movement plate of the maneuver he is plotting. I am sure he was using it visualize what he was planning.

And I know my tell is I tend to use my finger to trace my movement in mid air over my dial when I set them.

cheating is when they use an a wing dial with a x wing top on it, foreward green 5 for my next x wing move.

That would only work on someone that doesn't take the game serious enough to memorize all the dials .

What about if you pull out the movement card of your opponent's ships and use it as a reference?

At the start of a match, a guy pulled a card with the Interceptor movements (I was running interceptors, he was not), and took a quick peek before putting it away. He only looked at it once, and it was before the match began. I didn't say anything, but I would've if he would've used it again.