I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
Is ACD confirmed as a modification? From what I see in the picture it could be a title.
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
Is ACD confirmed as a modification? From what I see in the picture it could be a title.
This, so much this. Stealth, advanced cloaking, and sensor jammer. Make anyone trying to hurt your phantom have to commit everything to have any kind of realistic chance of hurting it. Or they can ignore it and let the 4 attack eat their fleet slowly
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
If you can find a way to put two mods on a Phantom, I'd take ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator. "When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
So what does the accelerator do?
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
Is ACD confirmed as a modification? From what I see in the picture it could be a title.
Gawd that would rock!
This, so much this. Stealth, advanced cloaking, and sensor jammer. Make anyone trying to hurt your phantom have to commit everything to have any kind of realistic chance of hurting it. Or they can ignore it and let the 4 attack eat their fleet slowly
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
If you can find a way to put two mods on a Phantom, I'd take ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator. "When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
So what does the accelerator do?
That's what I make out at 250% zoom of http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/x-wing/news/wave4/SWX19-layout.png
"When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.Is ACD confirmed as a modification? From what I see in the picture it could be a title.
I agree, they could be, but it's highly unlikely I would think, it's not really a title now is it?
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After much peering and poring and pixelhunting, I'd say what we can see from the card reads "TIE Phantom only. M"
Edited by DagonetThis, so much this. Stealth, advanced cloaking, and sensor jammer. Make anyone trying to hurt your phantom have to commit everything to have any kind of realistic chance of hurting it. Or they can ignore it and let the 4 attack eat their fleet slowly
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
If you can find a way to put two mods on a Phantom, I'd take ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator. "When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
So what does the accelerator do?
That's what I make out at 250% zoom of http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/x-wing/news/wave4/SWX19-layout.png
"When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
Pretty nice if so but being cloak only why wouldn't it say tie phantom only?
This, so much this. Stealth, advanced cloaking, and sensor jammer. Make anyone trying to hurt your phantom have to commit everything to have any kind of realistic chance of hurting it. Or they can ignore it and let the 4 attack eat their fleet slowly
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
If you can find a way to put two mods on a Phantom, I'd take ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator. "When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
So what does the accelerator do?
That's what I make out at 250% zoom of http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/x-wing/news/wave4/SWX19-layout.png
"When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
Pretty nice if so but being cloak only why wouldn't it say tie phantom only?
It would be pointless on any other ship. So that limitation would not make a difference.
Not limiting the card to the phantom might hint towards future ships with cloak action.
Pretty nice if so but being cloak only why wouldn't it say tie phantom only?
Why would it? The mod is dependent of your ship performing a cloaking action, who would want to put it on an academy pilot? You wouldn't put an engine upgrade on an A-wing.
ACD gives you a cloaking action and that is why it is limited to a ship type.
Pretty nice if so but being cloak only why wouldn't it say tie phantom only?
EDIT: Ninja'ed twice, but you get the idea.
Edited by Vorpal SwordIt would be pointless on any other ship. So that limitation would not make a difference.This, so much this. Stealth, advanced cloaking, and sensor jammer. Make anyone trying to hurt your phantom have to commit everything to have any kind of realistic chance of hurting it. Or they can ignore it and let the 4 attack eat their fleet slowly
I don't think you'll be able to combine SD and ACD. They're both modifications after all.
If you can find a way to put two mods on a Phantom, I'd take ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator. "When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
So what does the accelerator do?
That's what I make out at 250% zoom of http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/x-wing/news/wave4/SWX19-layout.png
"When you either decloak or perform a cloak action, you may perform a free evade action".
Pretty nice if so but being cloak only why wouldn't it say tie phantom only?
Not limiting the card to the phantom might hint towards future ships with cloak action.
That's what I was afraid of , rebel scum getting a cloak ship!
I am happy you are happy. I feel let down though that they went Star Treks route for cloaking. Just a dodge dice enhancment. I was looking forward to something much more unique =[
I highly doubt its just two dodge dice. Not only is it rather underwhelming (effective, but underwhelming), but the Phantom has two cards to explain the cloaking rules. That's a rather excessive amount of text for just the cloaking rules and "a cloaked craft has 2 additional agility."
Edited by keroko
I am happy you are happy. I feel let down though that they went Star Treks route for cloaking. Just a dodge dice enhancment. I was looking forward to something much more unique =[
I highly doubt its just two dodge dice. Not only is it rather underwhelming (effective, but underwhelming), but the Phantom has two cards to explain the cloaking rules. That's a rather excessive amount of text for just the cloaking rules and "a cloaked craft has 2 additional agility."
Maybe the 4 agility is against "x" number of attack dice that can't be modified (rerolls, focus, etc.).
A nearby game store that held a Store Championship today had several copies of that Game Trader magazine spoiling Wave 4. I took photos =) They show the exact wording of the abilities for Lieutenant Blount and Whisper, as well as what Advanced Cloaking Device does!


(If anyone wonders if I photoshopped these, here's a wide shot of both pages in the magazine:)

Nice find!!
Edit: They covered up how much Advanced Cloaking Device costs! Arg!
Double edit: Looks like he has an EPT too. And if he costs 32 at PS7, then the PS3 should cost... 25 if Whisper has +2 built in cost?
Edited by MajorJugglerA nearby game store that held a Store Championship today had several copies of that Game Trader magazine spoiling Wave 4. I took photos...
Well, that answers a lot of peoples' questions.
Nice find!!
Edit: They covered up how much Advanced Cloaking Device costs! Arg!
I noticed that too... rather irritating..... lol
Now we know ACD is a modification, not a title. So people who fly Phantoms will have to decide between ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator.
Yup... decisions, decisions.... lol
Holy crap, free cloak action? If the "free evade action after cloak/decloak" is accurate for Stygium, that seems kind of a no-brainer to me. Decloak, shoot stuff, recloak to catch anything looking to take potshots at you.
Theorycrafting for a moment, I'm assuming decloaking is a free action here: Decloak, move, focus with a recon specialist, shoot for four/five and spend focus to max hits, recloak and roll four dice with for defence with your second focus ready to boost it.
Hot-dangity, that certainly would warrant a high cost yeah.
As for Blount, he sounds like a kill-on-sight for anyone using a stealth-team, and someone with a nasty punch against TIE-swarms if you let him get his missile off. Nothing unbeatable, but certainly something you'd want to look out for and prioritize.
Edited by kerokoI'd also like to note that Whisper costs 32, which basically confirms that the PS3 Phantom (Sigma Squadron Pilot) is 25 points, not 29.
Holy crap, free cloak action? If the "free evade action after cloak/decloak" is accurate for Stygium, that seems kind of a no-brainer to me. Decloak, shoot stuff, recloak to catch anything looking to take potshots at you.
Nope. Both Advanced Cloaking Device and Stygium Particle Accelerator are modifications, so you have to choose one. Can't take both.
Now we know ACD is a modification, not a title. So people who fly Phantoms will have to decide between ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator.
Well no need for evade if you have a free cloak with VI .Yes , I'm only consider whisper in that theory, not some low lvl pilot.
On a plus note though looking at the wave 4 announcement the Stygium Particle Accelerator can be used on other ships as it just says modification.
I'd also like to note that Whisper costs 32, which basically confirms that the PS3 Phantom (Sigma Squadron Pilot) is 25 points, not 29.
Holy crap, free cloak action? If the "free evade action after cloak/decloak" is accurate for Stygium, that seems kind of a no-brainer to me. Decloak, shoot stuff, recloak to catch anything looking to take potshots at you.
Nope. Both Advanced Cloaking Device and Stygium Particle Accelerator are modifications, so you have to choose one. Can't take both.
Ahh, sorry, that's what I meant. ACD is kind of a no-brainer. Lets you re-cloak without spending an action right after you shoot, gaining all the perks of cloaking, which at two cards of rules I still believe will be more than just +2 agility, with minimal downtime between.
Now we know ACD is a modification, not a title. So people who fly Phantoms will have to decide between ACD and Stygium Particle Accelerator.
Also of note: very unlikely to see stealth devices on phantoms- Stygian is 1pt less and costs you your mod slot for a pretty near permanent evade token.
I'm pretty sure there will be a TL interaction with cloaking as well and that by itself has so many other clarifications (can you shoot missiles at it then? Can I still spend a TL? Can someone else pass me a TL...). That and/or I hope it isn't targetable at all at range 3+.
Edited by Rakky WistolWell, 4 defense dice without a focus or evade token isn't actually as good as 2 dice with an evade token, at least not until you start talking about focused fire. So the decision isn't as clear-cut as it seems: in order to get effective use out of the Advanced Cloaking Device, you'll need:
(1) Reasonably high PS, since anything that shoots before you do is going to catch you uncloaked.
(2) A way to generate multiple actions, since you probably want one to buff your attack and at least one to buff your defense.
If you can't typically count on both of those, the Accelerator could be the safer buy.
Interestingly, point (1) makes the Phantom very meta-dependent: against something like Blue Thunder, even the cheapest generic Phantom can equip Advanced Cloaking Device + Recon Specialist and make its opponent's life short and painful. So the Phantom is going to be worth more against low-PS lists, and less against high-PS lists--which makes me wonder if really high-PS pilots could get a boost in popularity as Phantom insurance.