I'm pretty much a newb when it comes to Star Wars, but I have beat Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2. Since I'm getting into X+Wing Minis (just bought the Core Set yesterday), where should I start if I want to get to know the pilots and ships better?

What version of the movies should I watch, and in which order?

And could someone link me to the best Star Wars wiki?

Lastly, what X-Wing Minis ship is closest to the Ebon Hawk from the Knights of the Old Republic games?

movie order is something of discussion. the movies came out 4-6 first THEN 1-3, story order is 1-6. You have not seen the movies at all? For the game of xwing, you could watch 4-6. That will cover everything in the game as it sits now. If you want the whole story for star wars on film, then start at the beginning. watch them all.

http://xwing-miniatures.wikia.com/wiki/X-Wing_Miniatures_Wiki is a good place to start, I prefer Wookiepedia though.

I suggest that you watch them either in the original order (4,5,6,1,2,3) or if you've never seen them before - it would make sense to watch them in the order that George Lucas initially intended - e.g. 1,2,3,4,5,6.

The closest you'll get to the Ebon hawk at this time is the YT-1300.

The Ebon Hawk was intended to look a bit like the YT-1300/Falcon So that's the best option there. It's not the same but it's the closest.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page is the best place for all things SW in my opinion.

Personally, I'd say you should watch A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. After that you should watch the prequils. A lot of people don't care for them though.

The best order:

Episode 4

Episode 5

Episode 1

Episode 2

Episode 3

Episode 6

Makes it like a big frame story, preserves the plot twist in Episode 5 from being spoiled by watching Episodes 1 through 3 first, allows your first Star Wars experience (watching the Star Destroyer overtake the Tantive IV) to be the same as most fans'.

But yeah, really, to get to know this game, you only need to watch Episodes 4, 5 and 6. There are no ships in this game from 1 through 3.

This miniatures game draws heavily on the video games, not just the movies. So you may want to watch YouTube videos of people playing the X-Wing and TIE Fighter PC games from the 90s. (They aren't really available to play anymore.) You also could buy Dark Forces and Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight on Steam to get to know a ship and some characters from those games.

I have seen them, but it's been a very long time. I can't remember much about them, lol. Hoping I can still enjoy the game even if I can't get into the films. They're pretty old now

First off, welcome to the game and a Galaxy Far Far Away! Star Wars has always been like the family business for me. It's been a part of my life since I first saw that scroll up the screen "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away.." when I was 4 years old. Now my kids are into it (like they had a choice!) and I'm lucky enough to not only have a wife who allows me to indulge my Star Wars fetish, but loves it almost as much as I do..

I'm a bit of a purist, so first things first. Get your hands on the original trilogy Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. (Episodes 4, 5, 6 or IV, V, VI if you will) DON'T watch the special edition. So many changes were made that it seems almost to be completely different movies. The originals stand on their own, and honestly didn't need to have the Special Edition treatment handed to them. AFTER you watch the original trilogy in all of its glory, then you can watch starting from Episode 1 (The Phantom Menace), moving through Ep 2 Attack of the Clones and Episode 3 Revenge of the Sith. Then if you REALLY want, I guess you could watch the Special Editions of 4, 5, and 6 (But don't say I didn't warn you!!)

As for a Star Wars Wiki, you can't do any better than wookieepedia.

As for the Ebon Hawk, it's an Old Republic ship. For this game as it takes place during the Galactic Civil War (Episodes 4-6), the closest you'll find would be the Millenium Falcon or YT-1300.

But now there is a lot of new stuff !

http://www.sharenator.com/memebase_104/#img-236736

I have seen them, but it's been a very long time. I can't remember much about them, lol. Hoping I can still enjoy the game even if I can't get into the films. They're pretty old now

Few films stand up to the test of time as well as the original Star Wars trilogy. My only issue is that the lightsaber combat in the more recent ones is so vastly superior you have to wonder how the people in the original ever survived.

Time to throw the cat amongst the pigeons......

You only need to watch 4,5 an 6 period. The prequels bring nothing to the story, lack the character and charm of the originals.

In gaming terms those 3 films will cover enough, to be honest the first one (4) on it own will probably give you enough of an insight.

With regards the lightsaber duels ROTJ still has my favourite. Yes its not as "swirly flash" as the prequels but its full of power, like chopping wood compared to slicing veg, the frustration and anger feel real.

Just my 2 cents mind you

I have seen them, but it's been a very long time. I can't remember much about them, lol. Hoping I can still enjoy the game even if I can't get into the films. They're pretty old now

Few films stand up to the test of time as well as the original Star Wars trilogy. My only issue is that the lightsaber combat in the more recent ones is so vastly superior you have to wonder how the people in the original ever survived.

Alright. That's good. Seems like it's a huge adventure, anyways, so I'll keep an open mind and just dive right in. I suspect that the original trilogy will be pretty good, although dated, and the new prequels will be pretty bad. At least that's how I remember the prequels. Although Revenge of the Site was kinda sweet iirc.

Anyways, so I'm gonna watch 4, 5, and 6. Then 1, 2, and 3. I'll either watch a LP or play the Dark Forces games.

And if I want the Ebon Hawk I need to get the YT or Millennium Falcon. Gotcha.

Honestly, if you really WATCH Episode I, just listen to the dialog. It seems like the entire movie is made up of one-liners.

"That little droid did it!"

"Sir. They've gone up the ventilation shaft!"

"You were right about one thing master. The negotiations were short."

The dialogue is so stunted it's not even funny.

*sigh... I feel like such the minority these days that I actually find the prequel trilogy enjoyable. Are there awkward moments, for sure. Is the acting the best? Not really, but it wasn't the best in 4-6 either. As far as the story goes, it's more of a story about how the Emperor gained power and manipulated everyone than ANYTHING else. It's not really Anakin's back story, or about the clone wars... It's 100% to do with the Emperor's rise to power... and oh yeah, you learn a thing or two about Anakin along the way.

*shrug. I donno, I enjoy watching them every now and then.

*sigh... I feel like such the minority these days that I actually find the prequel trilogy enjoyable. Are there awkward moments, for sure. Is the acting the best? Not really, but it wasn't the best in 4-6 either. As far as the story goes, it's more of a story about how the Emperor gained power and manipulated everyone than ANYTHING else. It's not really Anakin's back story, or about the clone wars... It's 100% to do with the Emperor's rise to power... and oh yeah, you learn a thing or two about Anakin along the way.

I mean, think about it, EP1 is all about the blockade on Naboo. Which Sidious went in league with the Trade Federation to arrange. He then manipulated Padme to call for a vote of no confidence in Vallorum. He then used the sympathy of his situation to get himself elected to Chancellor. Kinda cool. If you read the book Darth Plageuis, you'll learn how he manipulated his way into the Senate as well. Really cool how he did that.

Then EP2 is all about how he manipulates both the seperatists and the republic into fighting each other, even though they're both getting orders from the same person. All the while, he's getting more and more power amassed. Muwhahaha... excellent! Obviously he has brilliant long range planning/ vision because he created a clone army 10 years ago so he could manipulate the republic now.

And then EP3 is all about setting up the empire, and cleansing the jedi. The actual fighting that goes on is irrelevant to the overall story, except for why Yoda and Obi-wan survive. And it makes you realize how the emperor actually manipulated so many into thinking all of this evil was good. Which supports then why everyone just kinda accepted it.

*shrug. I donno, I enjoy watching them every now and then.

I don't know that you're in the minority but you're just going to find more people on these boards (for a game based in the original trilogy timeframe) who are more vocal about how much mowr Awzzmr the OT is.

I really do like both for absolutely different reasons. Both are star wars but when things are done 16 years later... and now episode 7 is 14 more years later... you can't compare them with the same lenses.

I have to say that I am also in the minority, whilst 1-3 are not as good as 4-6 they do have some good qualities such as the lightsaber duels, Darth Maul! And not to mention the fact that you get to see what made Anakin go bad, I just wish at some point we would get to see Vader at the height of his power!

Now for something controversial, I would personally like to see clones wars era ships to play with in X-Wing, the Jedi star fighter from Revenge of the Sith that is a Tie pre-curser would be awesome to play with.

*sigh... I feel like such the minority these days that I actually find the prequel trilogy enjoyable.

I guess I tend to think of them as stand alone movies that don't really have an impact on my memory of the OT.

It's not just these boards, it's the whole **** internet. It has just become fashionable to rage against the prequels, like whoever comes up with the most scathing diatribe scores internet points.

The 3 movies start out bad, but not as bad as people say, and get progressively better. Phantom Menace just has a few good spots amid kid's cartoon silliness, Clones is OK, with a few eye rolling moments, and Revenge is actually very good, better than Jedi IMO. The problem was that people had such unrealistically high expectations on Phantom Menace that, when it failed to meet them so spectacularly, it tainted peoples impressions of the next 2 films.

I totally agree with Khyros up there. The best parts of the prequels are all of the emperor's machinations. (And the sword fights).

I don't hate the prequels. I just don't like them as much as the original trilogy.

So how do people think about clone wars era ships to play with?

So how do people think about clone wars era ships to play with?

Eh, lukewarm. There are a few CW era fighters that I really like, but also a lot that I think are pretty ugly. And there are so many MORE prequel ships that if they started down that path I'm afraid all those ships I don't like would forever dominate the destiny of the game. So I guess I am overall against it.

On the other hand, the new rebels cartoon has the potential to introduce a lot of new ships that would be in the same design aesthetic as the original trilogy and that could be very good.

I'm pretty much a newb when it comes to Star Wars, but I have beat Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2. Since I'm getting into X+Wing Minis (just bought the Core Set yesterday), where should I start if I want to get to know the pilots and ships better?

What version of the movies should I watch, and in which order?

And could someone link me to the best Star Wars wiki?

Lastly, what X-Wing Minis ship is closest to the Ebon Hawk from the Knights of the Old Republic games?

Figured I would toss in my 2 Galactic Credits in this thread.

1. A large amount of the pilots in the films are never even named on the Rebellion side but their designations within their squadrons are used. The Empire only has 1 pilot that is named in the films. The EU (Expanded Universe) names a lot of the pilots present in films 4-6 and gives them their own stories. Definitely watch 4-6 as there is a lot more focus on space battles than in the prequels.

2. That is a debate that rages on everywhere. I try to keep as unbiased in terms of the versions of the films you should see. I am not a big fan of extra cg added into a film that had been finished 20 years prior to it's special edition makeovers but the only copies I own are ones with extra cg added in. It doesn't bother me all that much as it is just minor stuff in the films and at the most just comes across as poor graphics but doesn't detract from the plot or the scope or the feel of the films in general. I would suggest if possible that you get a copy of the blu-ray editions. Prettier graphics and stuff plus so many extras in the discs.

As far as viewing order, I saw them in the order they came out, 4,5,6 and then 1,2,3 (the special editions of the original trilogy were in theaters when I was a young lad) and I spent a lot of time watching them when they came on television. That is a decent way of watching them and is the way that most everyone else experience the films.

My personal preference would be the Machete Order. Watch 4,5,2,3 and finish it up with 6. You can choose to watch 1 as like an optional prologue afterwards but to me and others the series of films makes more sense in that order. Episode 1 was by far the weakest of all the films and isn't really all that necessary to know the plot of the whole saga. It's a self contained film.

3. YT-1300

We already have 1 ship from the Clone War era in the Y-Wing and are getting a second in wave 4 with the Z-95. Personally I would love to see Ep 1-3 ships and pilots in the game, including the Separatist Droid fighters.

The biggest reason for me to warn people away from starting with the prequels is that prequels often presuppose knowledge of the universe you're going to read about, or watch a movie/tv series of.

The prequel story to The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe assumes you know about Narnia. The Dunk and Egg stories make no sense without reading at least some of a song of ice and fire and the Star Wars prequels are not focused on telling their own story but in explaining how the events of the main trilogy came to be. When you're introduced to Owen and Beru, for instance, you're meant to respond to them based on what you know happens in A New Hope. Same with seeing the droids for the first time.

Paired with too much reliance on wooden dialogue and silly humour makes The Phantom Menace a very bad starting point and the one movie that might even be better skipped, with the two remaining prequels watched between Empire and Jedi as Flashbacks.