Imperial Aces II - The Revenge Of The Advanced?

By TheRealStarkiller, in X-Wing

Now the Rebels get a giant buff for the X-Wings (via Transport) A-Wings and B-Wings.

Probably rendering the 12 point TIE Fighter the only Imperial craft in the 'TOP 5 COMPETITIVE SHIPS' ...

I'm sure there will be a IA2 box containing the TIE Advanced. Maybe it will be a repaint. Maybe it will be black or blue ... with red stripes ... or we will get a Royal Guard Advanced?

Maybe there is a TIE Fighter as the second ship in the box? Or even a TIE Bomber?

One thing is clear for me. I want new Imperial pilots having the same QUALITY like the rebels get nowadays.

I hope its the TIE Bomber coming with the Advanced. With EPT for the Gammas.

The Advanced will get a -2 point modification and a System Upgrade slot ... or the FCS for 0 points.

What do you hope/wish/expect from the Imperial Aces II Expansion?

Any ideas for the pilots?

I think the flux in rebel advancement has been needed for some time. While rebels are good they were never great and required a lot of work to run a squad correctly. I do enjoy seeing these new upgrades. Personally I hope to see some synergy upgrades for the empire.

Much of the empire is "independent-dependant" meaning our synergy lies solely on the squad working together at short ranges.

A new sculpt, the Tie Avenger would be nice, ha ha.

The Tie Avenger deserve to have a release of its own.

There certainly was never a Royal Guard Advanced, so I'd dunk that.

I'm not sure whether I would make the Avenger a release by itself; just because it's so close in function to the Advanced. The Defender is being touted as a heavy gunship, the Bomber the heavy bomb-and-ordnance truck, the fighter the swarmer, and the interceptor the sabre-dancer. The Phantom....it's all about the cloaking that we don't understand yet.

The advanced is a tough if under-armed medium superiority fighter. Which is what the avenger would be.

Hmm...

I agree the advanced could do with something (and there are no shortage of 'fixing the advanced' threads). But the other fighters....interceptors are fine, or at least don't need more pilots. Fighters are also fine, and have some of the best in the game.

I'm just trying to figure out any 'storyline' pairing of advanceds and bombers. Black Eight squadron, maybe?

We know that they used fighters and bombers, advanceds and bombers isn't a dramatic step. Plus a jet-black-with extreme highlight trim on TIEs would look badass. black never goes out of fashion.

I would prefer if they came up with something unique for the Advanceds rather than just cloning the existing cards. Something target-lock related would be good; vader is a good enough pilot that you'd have thought he could have shot blind - clearly the targeting system of a full-blown advanced does something scary.

It'd be nice to have a "Black Eight" title you can peg to Fighters, Bombers and Advanceds.Not sure what to have it do - as noted, the 'give someone an elite talent' has already been co-opted, although giving tempests and storms an elite talent would be nice. Plus double-eliting Black Squadron would be very nice (although an eyeball's so **** fragile relatively few people would probably do so save for really cheap talents).

In fact, a triple pack of fighter, bomber and advanced in Black Eight colours would be kind of cool.

Please...just fix my advanced FFG. Please D:

The tie advanced was supposed to be a test bed for the tie series of fighters. By that reasoning, the next release for the Imperials should be more of a Tie Prototype themed boxed set. It would be two advanced (as many people only have two in their fleets anyways) and one of them would be the modified version with the winglets (as seen below). Bright_SWG.jpg

There would be two new pilots, and new upgrades focusing on the prototype version of these fighters. Engine Upgrade would be a card to include.

Maybe the inclusion of the very first tractor beam (unless the defender has it).

Maybe a mod to swap the missile slot for a bomb slot.

Maybe adding a sensor slot with a modification.

The advanced does not see much play except for Vader. FFG, can we give it some attention?

Do you really expect to see rebel aces 3rd quarter??

But yes Id love to see the advanced get some love.

Well, I'd rather have a BIG SHIP for the Imperials with a Tie Advanced in the box. Really like Servogan 's post of the Advanced with winglets.

But, if it is a Ace 2 box, I'd say Bomber and Advanced.

A new sculpt, the Tie Avenger would be nice, ha ha.

The new TIE Defender, from a stat perspective, basically is a nerfed version of the TIE Avenger. Should be 3/3/3/4, missile, no cannon slot. Way better dial than the Interceptor, and boost.

The actual Defender we got doesn't even have a beam weapon slot.

So, there's not much design room to release a TIE Avenger. Not saying it can't be done though.

I think you imperial players will get the rebel treatment soon. Large ships will bring fun things. I think maybe picking the imperial large ship is harder to choose as they have more of them. Overall I think the balance is still very good. Nothing in Rebel Aces has changed that

There certainly was never a Royal Guard Advanced, so I'd dunk that. I'm not sure whether I would make the Avenger a release by itself; just because it's so close in function to the Advanced. The Defender is being touted as a heavy gunship, the Bomber the heavy bomb-and-ordnance truck, the fighter the swarmer, and the interceptor the sabre-dancer. The Phantom....it's all about the cloaking that we don't understand yet. The advanced is a tough if under-armed medium superiority fighter. Which is what the avenger would be. Hmm... I agree the advanced could do with something (and there are no shortage of 'fixing the advanced' threads). But the other fighters....interceptors are fine, or at least don't need more pilots. Fighters are also fine, and have some of the best in the game.I'm just trying to figure out any 'storyline' pairing of advanceds and bombers. Black Eight squadron, maybe? We know that they used fighters and bombers, advanceds and bombers isn't a dramatic step. Plus a jet-black-with extreme highlight trim on TIEs would look badass. black never goes out of fashion. I would prefer if they came up with something unique for the Advanceds rather than just cloning the existing cards. Something target-lock related would be good; vader is a good enough pilot that you'd have thought he could have shot blind - clearly the targeting system of a full-blown advanced does something scary. It'd be nice to have a "Black Eight" title you can peg to Fighters, Bombers and Advanceds.Not sure what to have it do - as noted, the 'give someone an elite talent' has already been co-opted, although giving tempests and storms an elite talent would be nice. Plus double-eliting Black Squadron would be very nice (although an eyeball's so **** fragile relatively few people would probably do so save for really cheap talents). In fact, a triple pack of fighter, bomber and advanced in Black Eight colours would be kind of cool.

I can see FFG doing x mod upgrade card for the advanced that would take the missle slot and be a gun upgrade rendering the advanced with an extra attack.

Seriously guys, it took like 7 months for imperial aces to come out. Who knows what we will have by then. Imps are getting the defender and phantom, both of which are looking to be some brutal ships, for wave 4. Take these things 1 at a time.

The tie advanced was supposed to be a test bed for the tie series of fighters. By that reasoning, the next release for the Imperials should be more of a Tie Prototype themed boxed set. It would be two advanced (as many people only have two in their fleets anyways) and one of them would be the modified version with the winglets (as seen below). Bright_SWG.jpg There would be two new pilots, and new upgrades focusing on the prototype version of these fighters. Engine Upgrade would be a card to include. Maybe the inclusion of the very first tractor beam (unless the defender has it). Maybe a mod to swap the missile slot for a bomb slot.Maybe adding a sensor slot with a modification. The advanced does not see much play except for Vader. FFG, can we give it some attention?

ATTN: FFG please put the above post into effect with your design group and I will buy 4 cases :) .

Seriously guys, it took like 7 months for imperial aces to come out. Who knows what we will have by then. Imps are getting the defender and phantom, both of which are looking to be some brutal ships, for wave 4. Take these things 1 at a time.

Imperial players can't , being dark sided we are very impatient! :) we need tekky tie goodness news on the phantom yesterday!

Seriously guys, it took like 7 months for imperial aces to come out. Who knows what we will have by then. Imps are getting the defender and phantom, both of which are looking to be some brutal ships, for wave 4. Take these things 1 at a time.

Phantom may be good, it depends how cloaking is.

The Defender looks to be overpriced almost as badly as the TIE Advanced.

Awww poor widdle MajorJuggler complaining that the miniatures version of the TIE Defender doesn't match the one from the computer games...

Seriously guys, it took like 7 months for imperial aces to come out. Who knows what we will have by then. Imps are getting the defender and phantom, both of which are looking to be some brutal ships, for wave 4. Take these things 1 at a time.

Phantom may be good, it depends how cloaking is.The Defender looks to be overpriced almost as badly as the TIE Advanced.

FFG seems to be cleaning up on the designs of the past. Giving the Y wing the ability to have a EPT and now the A wing. If the defender is expensive I expect the undisclosed move to be something worth the cost. As far as we know it could be the white k in addition to a free action.

Awww poor widdle MajorJuggler complaining that the miniatures version of the TIE Defender doesn't match the one from the computer games...

Its balanced cost has nothing to do with the TIE Fighter game.

Actually was refering to the previous post of yours.. you posted between my opening the page and submitting my comment...

Plus... <sarcasm detector needed>

Interesting... There seem to only be a few people answering the OP's question...

What do you hope/wish/expect from the Imperial Aces II Expansion?

I would be happy with a Tie Advanced upgrade. If they made the A-Wing go from mediocre to cool, that would be great for the Advanced.

The way I look at it, after Rebel Aces comes out, Rebels will have new pilots/upgrades for three of their current ships:

The X-Wing , an already fairly competitive ship, "Now with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

The B-Wing , an already fairly competitive ship, "Now with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

And the A-Wing , a mediocre ship, "Now a competitive ship with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

The Imperials will have:
The Tie Intercepter , an already fairly competitive ship, "Now with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

Lots of Rebels people are saying, "Oh, the Phantom's super secret skill will make up for this!" Apparently, some people think that wave four only consists of one ship...? Rebels get two ships, Imperials get two ships... that we don't know everything about.

Now, unless the Phantom or the Defender is so overpowered that it equalizes the playing field for three other ships, Imperials should be in for some fun upgrades that make at least a few of our ships competitive with the Tie Fighter. Here's to hoping that there is a fix for the Tie Advance in those upgrades...

A new sculpt, the Tie Avenger would be nice, ha ha.

The new TIE Defender, from a stat perspective, basically is a nerfed version of the TIE Avenger. Should be 3/3/3/4, missile, no cannon slot. Way better dial than the Interceptor, and boost.

The actual Defender we got doesn't even have a beam weapon slot.

So, there's not much design room to release a TIE Avenger. Not saying it can't be done though.

But the Avenger will get a beam slot ... and I'll bet it will be 3-3-2-3 or 3-3-3-2. Base model for 25 to make ppl to buy 4 of them ;)

Seriously guys, it took like 7 months for imperial aces to come out. Who knows what we will have by then. Imps are getting the defender and phantom, both of which are looking to be some brutal ships, for wave 4. Take these things 1 at a time.

Imperial players can't , being dark sided we are very impatient! :) we need tekky tie goodness news on the phantom yesterday!

!!! I can feel the anger already ... it makes me so strong ....

Actually was refering to the previous post of yours.. you posted between my opening the page and submitting my comment...

Plus... <sarcasm detector needed>

Well, regardless of what the Defender could have been, its current stat line leaves little room for an Avenger, that was the point. Drop the cannon slot, and its now an Avenger.

I really hope we see an "Imperial War Machine" box.

I would expect lots of Prototype titles for the Advanced, new pilots for the advanced, tie fighter, tie bomber, and maybe even a new shuttle pilot. On one of the other "Help the Advanced" threads I posted ideas for Prototypes 2-7.

I would expect 2-3 IMPERIAL ONLY mods and crew.

As to fighters... I don't know. A really really high quality repaint of any of those ships would suffice. Then maybe some cool high quality decals to put on fighters! Heck I'd even take an alt paint Tie...never have too many of those.

Interesting... There seem to only be a few people answering the OP's question...

What do you hope/wish/expect from the Imperial Aces II Expansion?

I would be happy with a Tie Advanced upgrade. If they made the A-Wing go from mediocre to cool, that would be great for the Advanced.

The way I look at it, after Rebel Aces comes out, Rebels will have new pilots/upgrades for three of their current ships:

The X-Wing , an already fairly competitive ship, "Now with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

The B-Wing , an already fairly competitive ship, "Now with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

And the A-Wing , a mediocre ship, "Now a competitive ship with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

The Imperials will have:

The Tie Intercepter , an already fairly competitive ship, "Now with new pilots and upgrades! And a repaint!"

Lots of Rebels people are saying, "Oh, the Phantom's super secret skill will make up for this!" Apparently, some people think that wave four only consists of one ship...? Rebels get two ships, Imperials get two ships... that we don't know everything about.

Now, unless the Phantom or the Defender is so overpowered that it equalizes the playing field for three other ships, Imperials should be in for some fun upgrades that make at least a few of our ships competitive with the Tie Fighter. Here's to hoping that there is a fix for the Tie Advance in those upgrades...

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