'Rebel Aces' really points to how junk the TIE Advanced is.

By xanderf, in X-Wing

Give me a -2 point cost for the TIE Fighter

Give me a -2 point cost for the TIE Fighter

As long as it is a missile... :)

Why not a -4 for the Tie Bomber that takes both its missile slots...call it char-chardaan upgrade. ;)

Edited by BattlePriest

The only thing I'm upset about, when it comes to the Advanced, is the lack of common pilot with EPT. The new Interceptors actually make me more excited about the Advanced as a missile platform and blocker for the glass cannons.

Edited by Stone37

Why not a -4 for the Tie Bomber that takes both its missile slots...call it char-chardaan upgrade. ;)

Because then you could have a 12 point TIE substitue with double hull. Imagine the swarms with nearly 40 hull....

Give me a -2 point cost for the TIE Fighter

As long as it is a missile... :)

No, a modification: "Plundered Bits" or something alike ;P

Why not a -4 for the Tie Bomber that takes both its missile slots...call it char-chardaan upgrade. ;)

Cool - there would be 2 torp slots and a bomb slot left. If you Char-chardaan them away completely, the Scimitar Bombers would be 6 points

Why not a -4 for the Tie Bomber that takes both its missile slots...call it char-chardaan upgrade. ;)

Because then you could have a 12 point TIE substitue with double hull. Imagine the swarms with nearly 40 hull....

this must be very exiting games

Why not a -4 for the Tie Bomber that takes both its missile slots...call it char-chardaan upgrade. ;)

LOL.

But no, the are imps and they lost this war long time ago in a galaxy far far away. They ought to be charred already :)

We lost the war? LIES!!!

Why not a -4 for the Tie Bomber that takes both its missile slots...call it char-chardaan upgrade. ;)

Because then you could have a 12 point TIE substitue with double hull. Imagine the swarms with nearly 40 hull....

Exactly my point! (Added note that the bomber have only 2 agility and worse dial than the fighter) The rebels are getting their way better version of the tie fighter for only 3 points more from a very good card upgrade and they are complaining that it sux?!!

The interceptor is overcosted like the a-wing and its point value is not decreased, not to mention the dreaded advanced.

Geez, it is like crying foul that a good card is not uber game breaking. Imperialis would love to have anything like that to decrease cost.

If you don't like it, I would gladly accept it and put it in my imperial list

just sayin i think advanced are good i have a good list

marek stelee clsuter missiles

2x Ps4 tie advanced cluster missiles and swarm tactics

1 Obsidian Squadron

100 points list that hit the enemy pretty hard

We lost the war? LIES!!!

no we didnt lost this war join my Imperial Remnant forces !!

Geez, it is like crying foul that a good card is not uber game breaking.

There was what, one person who said that the card was bad. Well he didn't even really say that, just that it was poorly designed.

Point taken. I am referring to the common sentiment of hate towards it, especially in regards to the missile 'tax', etc...

Geez, it is like crying foul that a good card is not uber game breaking.

There was what, one person who said that the card was bad. Well he didn't even really say that, just that it was poorly designed.

And he is wrong. It is a brilliant, elegant piece of game design and far superior to a cludgy piece of errata that would need to be downloaded.

Geez, it is like crying foul that a good card is not uber game breaking.

There was what, one person who said that the card was bad. Well he didn't even really say that, just that it was poorly designed.

And he is wrong. It is a brilliant, elegant piece of game design and far superior to a cludgy piece of errata that would need to be downloaded.

Point taken. I am referring to the common sentiment of hate towards it, especially in regards to the missile 'tax', etc...

I don't think there's even that much hate about it. Just the opinion that it makes A-Wings with missiles worse then they were. Which IMO isn't true, they're still as good as they were. Which isn't that great to start with.

But no one really hates the card, the debate is if the card makes missiles even less useful for A-Wings then they were before

Maybe they're thinking the Z95 will pick up the role of cheap little Missile carrier?

Just the opinion that it makes A-Wings with missiles worse then they were.

Not worse than they were, but rather that the difference in point efficiency between an a wing with a missile and an a wing without has gotten bigger.

Someone mentioned it and I liked the idea about a title card. If they are not going to make the Tie-Avenger, create a title card to give to the Tie-Advanced called: Tie-Avenger Conversion...this would increase the Weapon Value by 1 to give the Tie-Advanced 3 attack total.

What's a Tie Avenger look like? An Advanced with bits cut out to look like Interceptor? There seem to be contradictory pictures.

Tempest Squadron Pilot + Cluster Missiles (25)

Tempest Squadron Pilot + Cluster Missiles (25)

Tempest Squadron Pilot + Cluster Missiles (25)

Captain Jonus + Proximity Mines (25)

What about this list isn't better if you replace all three Tempests with TIE Bombers and add... basically anything that costs 15 points, like three Assault Missiles or Night Beast?

Especially since he was "boasting" that he can take out ANY ship in the first (and more or less only serious) attack - which isn't true to start with, as I ran similar builds (there are too many things that can go wrong here). So exchanging for bombers and adding Assault Missiles to each bomber allows a strike at R3 with the ASLTM and then finish whatever survived at R2 or R1 with the Cluster missiles. No good reason to take Advanced here as you can get a far stronger build ;-)

We lost the war? LIES!!!

no we didnt lost this war join my Imperial Remnant forces !!

We have not won the war YET... but we certainly didn't lose it.

Z95 is the new missile platform. awing...just wow. And like the bwing needed to be "better". Ywings really needed the help.

And i'd like to say "called it" on the point cost reduction title. I'm sure we'll get one for the advanced as well.

Maybe they're thinking the Z95 will pick up the role of cheap little Missile carrier?

The Advanced is actually a great platform. The problem lies in lack of pilots. Furthermore, it really needs a common with an EPT, like Green. I think we can bank on an Advanced Aces pack.

The Advanced is actually a great platform. The problem lies in lack of pilots. Furthermore, it really needs a common with an EPT, like Green. I think we can bank on an Advanced Aces pack.

What? Lol.

Check out Rakky's Store Championship thread out of around 70 winning lists, there have been TWO Advanced, both Vader. Who is incidentally the best pilot in the game.

Also see my Lanchesters thread for math on why it is overcosted by 2-3+ points

Yea, lol. Oh yes, they are so good that their 1 more hull and way worse dial compared to the a-wing costs 4 points more. :)