Scale is an extremely high priority to FFG. It took them much longer to design capital ships than they intended, because they didn't want to have to sacrifice scale accuracy. We also likely will never see a star destroyer, because even at the scale of the Tantive IV, it would be about 7 feet long. They have said the scales for the current fighters (1/270) and capital ships (approx. 1/500) will be the scales that the game will indefinitely continue to be produced.

I agree with the massive size of the ships.

Republic capital ships are way smaller than the Imperial versions, like the smallest type of dagger-shaped ship would be the Imperial-II class frigate which comes to 400m compared to Tantive IV's 150m.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_II-class_frigate

The picket cruisers are around 600m

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Immobilizer_418_cruiser

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Enforcer-class_picket_cruiser

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vindicator-class_heavy_cruiser

They are all way too big to fit in.

Not sure why everyoe is so radical about ship sizes. Hounds Tooth the size of the falcon would be fine as it's a medium sized ship.

uhh.. no.. it's twice the length of the falcon...

Even though I am also guilty of this, I really hate to hijack different threads, is there a thread that we can point to in order to discuss about ship sizes, scales and what not?

And back to Rebel Aces:

I really like what Danthrax is thinking. The codes SWX23 to SWX28 means it is another wave of expansion (wave 5) before the Rebel Aces, coming out with new cards/ships/pilots to lead up to/balance the Rebel Aces. That is pretty exciting.

The good thing about Rebel Aces, we know the dials and some of the spoiled cards, did anyone try out the abilities in a game yet? like what some people did for the Imperial Aces before they came out?

Just because they have lower numbers, doesn't mean they are releasing before the Aces. FFG would've announced them first.

Besides, we aren't fully aware of what the game will look like after Wave 4. I think the Defender and the Phantom are going to make a splash.

The Phantom maybe, but the Defender? Its looking like its overcosted by about 5 points, before considering the dial. Ewing also looks overcosted, but not by as much.

The Z-95 and 15 point A-wings will be a big deal. Say hello to 5 ship rebel fleets as the new standard.

For the Defender, I'm waiting to know what the unique pilots abilities will be and what the new EPTs are before judging, but I could see one alongside 2 Interceptors. A fast and maneuvrable ship with a Ion Cannon or Autoblaster can really mess things up, especially with a white K-Turn.

I just want to put 3 Tie Defenders in a 100pt game...

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Just because they have lower numbers, doesn't mean they are releasing before the Aces. FFG would've announced them first.

Besides, we aren't fully aware of what the game will look like after Wave 4. I think the Defender and the Phantom are going to make a splash.

However, it seems to have originally been seen first at a trade show, which is not open to the public, and then it just happened to "leek" to everyone else. After the the community responed to that news with a resounding "Say whaaaaat?," FFG decided they were gunna have to make an official announcment public.

Based on that, I would say we see 23-28 in consecutive order.

Not sure why everyoe is so radical about ship sizes. Hounds Tooth the size of the falcon would be fine as it's a medium sized ship.

uhh.. no.. it's twice the length of the falcon...

Making it large enough to still fit on the Med base is acceptable. Not sure why size nazi people are so adamant on everything being exact. To get some ships, some ground must be given.

Calling people Nazis while arguing for appeasement is neither appropriate nor successful, as Neville Chamberlain found out.

Sorry, "size Taliban". Is that better?


I'm pretty sure they've already considered the fact that these large ships will be a big buy for people who don't even play the game and the handful of people who cry foul over a scaled down Star Destroyer, Victory or Interdictor have zero impact on the game or business.

The forums which they hardly pay attention to would be full of gamer tears for maybe a week and after some of us finish collecting such rare and delicious juices, they are distracted by something else to put their pidantic rants towards.

I'm assuming many don't want to see it, because of the potential price point and since they can't afford it, will punish everyone else due to their jealousy. (Hidden behind carefully crafted excuses as to why it shouldn't happen.)

...they are distracted by something else to put their pidantic rants towards.

I think you mean "pedantic".

...they are distracted by something else to put their pidantic rants towards.

I think you mean "pedantic".

Ah, an orthographic pedant.

Yup. heh.

I don't think FFG would have taken 2 pages at the end of the rulebook explaining how much they want to stay true to the source material and set a scale that they want to respect for the game if they didn't care. So I don't think it's just to please some 'Nazi' or 'Taliban' as you seems to like to call them. They advertise the game as being as faithful to the source material as possible.

So, seeing as it's FFG itself that wants to act like 'nazi' or 'Taliban', I don't see Hound's Tooth being released as a wave expension or half the size the ship should be. As a special separate release like they are doing with the Aces and Epic ships, sure! And I really hope they do cause I'm eager to field a Bounty Hunter only squad.

Now, like Battlepriest said, this thread is about the Rebel Aces and how they will screw the Empire so I'll leave it at that.

Am I the only one that wants the other a wing pilot to be Admiral Ackbar?

I don't think FFG would have taken 2 pages at the end of the rulebook explaining how much they want to stay true to the source material and set a scale that they want to respect for the game if they didn't care. So I don't think it's just to please some 'Nazi' or 'Taliban' as you seems to like to call them. They advertise the game as being as faithful to the source material as possible.

So, seeing as it's FFG itself that wants to act like 'nazi' or 'Taliban', I don't see Hound's Tooth being released as a wave expension or half the size the ship should be. As a special separate release like they are doing with the Aces and Epic ships, sure! And I really hope they do cause I'm eager to field a Bounty Hunter only squad.

Now, like Battlepriest said, this thread is about the Rebel Aces and how they will screw the Empire so I'll leave it at that.

Things change over time....especially when they start running out of material. They'll spin a story as to why they felt it was feasible to make the ISD happen and it would be a few years down the road. People will be scrambling for new products, because they will have exhausted most of their options.

Player pool will plateau. Sales will settle down and they will pull whatever they can out of their hat to get profit spikes and renewed interest in the game.

Game companies notoriously change their minds when they have guaranteed dolla bills are flying at their face.

Am I the only one that wants the other a wing pilot to be Admiral Ackbar?

Would be cool, but I fully expect Ackbar to be a crew member at some point in the future.

Am I the only one that wants the other a wing pilot to be Admiral Ackbar?

Would be cool, but I fully expect Ackbar to be a crew member at some point in the future.

Yeah, and the Rebel Aces pack would have been the perfect time to include him with the B-Wing getting a crew slot.

A question about the 2 crew included, Jan and Kyle. Have they ever flown into a B-Wing? I never played any of the Dark Force games so I really don't know those character and what happened to them.

So, was the inclusion thematic, or just because they decided to include them and it did seems like a good time to do so?

Ackbar actually flew a B-wing so he'd be a better option there than an A-wing.

Didn't he actually design the B-Wing as well?

I don't think FFG would have taken 2 pages at the end of the rulebook explaining how much they want to stay true to the source material and set a scale that they want to respect for the game if they didn't care. So I don't think it's just to please some 'Nazi' or 'Taliban' as you seems to like to call them. They advertise the game as being as faithful to the source material as possible.

So, seeing as it's FFG itself that wants to act like 'nazi' or 'Taliban', I don't see Hound's Tooth being released as a wave expension or half the size the ship should be. As a special separate release like they are doing with the Aces and Epic ships, sure! And I really hope they do cause I'm eager to field a Bounty Hunter only squad.

Now, like Battlepriest said, this thread is about the Rebel Aces and how they will screw the Empire so I'll leave it at that.

Things change over time....especially when they start running out of material. They'll spin a story as to why they felt it was feasible to make the ISD happen and it would be a few years down the road. People will be scrambling for new products, because they will have exhausted most of their options.

Player pool will plateau. Sales will settle down and they will pull whatever they can out of their hat to get profit spikes and renewed interest in the game.

Game companies notoriously change their minds when they have guaranteed dolla bills are flying at their face.

Yes and people dream big dreams when they want to see their concepts put in play...

With the company setting the precident of scale, any arguments to the contrary are just that.. arguments. You're curious why some of us stick to our scale side of the argument.. We wonder why you guys choose to ignore what has been stated by the Authority on the subject... I dont see them changing their ideas on this.. and certain ships would be ludicrous to scale down to fit a table, no matter what anyone thinks to the contrary..

So... the response remains... the company says you're wrong, and I dont need to argue about it any more...m

Well, the Defender has been mentioned to be slightly off scale a few too many times for it to be a mistake. Also, how many people were surprised by the HWK's small size when released?

Sources for the HWK differ, and they went with the smaller one.. and a couple millimeters isn't important... when you cut a ships size by half.. that is a big difference...