Question about Jendon giving Target Locks

By Bjorn Rockfist, in X-Wing

If Jendon gives a target lock to a ship, such as a Lambda with Weapon Engineer, can the ship recieving the Target Lock aquire another target lock on a different ship along with the one it is recieving?

If Jendon gives a target lock to a ship, such as a Lambda with Weapon Engineer, can the ship recieving the Target Lock aquire another target lock on a different ship along with the one it is recieving?

Basically, no.

If the ship receiving the lock has a Weapons Engineer, then it can later acquire an additional target lock (or can pick up Jendon's tokens in addition to the lock it already has). However, because Jendon passes tokens rather than allowing another ship to acquire a lock, the Weapons Engineer's ability isn't triggered.

Then they need to fix the FAQ where it says:

Q: If a ship doesn’t have the action icon

in its action bar, can it acquire and/or

maintain a target lock granted by some

game effect, such as Captain Jendon’s

ability?

A: Yes.

This is on page 7 of the current FAQ. Am I not reading where it says it can "acquire and/or maintain a target lock granted by some game effect, such as Capt. Jendon's ability". The and/or looks as though they are calling the target lock handed off by him to be acquired by the ship recieving it.

Edited by Bjorn Rockfist

This is on page 7 of the current FAQ. Am I not reading where it says it can "acquire and/or maintain a target lock granted by some game effect, such as Capt. Jendon's ability". The and/or looks as though they are calling the target lock handed off by him to be acquired by the ship recieving it.

The FAQ is correct, if a little misleading: a ship without Target Lock in its bar can maintain a lock granted by Jendon. The ship can't acquire a lock using Jendon, because Jendon doesn't allow friendly ships to acquire a lock.

Edited by Vorpal Sword

So they really should have used Dutch as the example pilot not Jendon in that question lol.

Edited by Bjorn Rockfist

So they really should have used Dutch as the example pilot not Jendon in that question lol.

The FAQ is asking if the target lock from Jendon can be passed to a ship that does not have the target lock (let's call it) ability in the ship's action bar. The answer is, yes, the target lock can be passed to that ship.

Example: Jendon acquires a target lock on a B-Wing. Jendon passes that target lock to an Academy Pilot (just a normal TIE Fighter) so the Academy Pilot now has the target lock on the B-Wing. Perfectly legal. This does not mean the the Academy Pilot can later acquire a lock lock on any other ship or reacquire a new target lock on the same B-Wing after spending the original target lock. The TIE Fighter does not have the Target Lock icon on its Action Bar.

The FAQ you posted really has nothing to do with your original question.

Edited by Lappenlocker

So they really should have used Dutch as the example pilot not Jendon in that question lol.

Huh? I think you are really confused.

The FAQ is asking if the target lock from Jendon can be passed to a ship that does not have the target lock (let's call it) ability in the ship's action bar. The answer is, yes, the target lock can be passed to that ship.

Example: Jendon passes a target lock to an Academy Pilot (just a normal TIE Fighter). Perfectly legal.

The FAQ you posted really has nothing to do with your original question.

First off I was going by the fact the FAQ question clearly says "ACQUIRE" in the question and has Jendon as the example pilot who's ability does this.

Second YES my question is sound because if a ship without the action on it's bar would "ACQUIRE" the target lock from Jendon via the way the FAQ is worded then a ship with the target lock ability on it's bar would "ACQUIRE" the lock just the same.

But thanks for your 2 cents ;)

First off I was going by the fact the FAQ question clearly says "ACQUIRE" in the question and has Jendon as the example pilot who's ability does this.

First off I was going by the fact the FAQ question clearly says "ACQUIRE" in the question and has Jendon as the example pilot who's ability does this.

It says "acquire/maintain". You don't need to have target lock in your action bar to maintain a target lock, nor do you need it to acquire a lock. That doesn't mean that Jendon allows a ship to acquire a target lock.

Nor will the FAQ list all possible ways to acquire or maintain a target lock. The example chosen addresses the "maintain" part of the question. I suppose they could have used Dutch as the example to support "acquire" but then someone would come along and wonder about the "maintain" part. FWIW

If Jendon gives a target lock to a ship, such as a Lambda with Weapon Engineer, can the ship recieving the Target Lock aquire another target lock on a different ship along with the one it is recieving?

For all crew members other than intelligence agent, "you" should be read as [this ship]. Otherwise gunner and vader could be triggered all the time.

Edited by Dagonet

No, crew members only affect the ships they are crewing. So when jendon acquires a lock the engineer triggers, not when he gives a lock away to a different ship.

Reread his question, Jendon doesn't have the weapons engineer, the ship receiving the blue lock token does.

No, crew members only affect the ships they are crewing. So when jendon acquires a lock the engineer triggers, not when he gives a lock away to a different ship.

Reread his question, Jendon doesn't have the weapons engineer, the ship receiving the blue lock token does.

You are totally right, I misread the question, sorry. :) .

To acquire a target lock is an action as defined by the rules book page 9.

You will not get an extra TL unless you:

1 spend an action on the TL

and

2 lock on to a ship inside range 1-3

Yes but multiple abilities allow allies to freely acquire target locks without an action.

Given the wording on the Weapons Engineer versus the wording on Jendon, they do not get to use the engineer. Jendon passes off the blue token. However, Dutch grants a ship the ability to acquire a target lock, so they can use Weapons Engineer.

Yeah, the action is the most common way to acquire a target lock, but not the only way. Jendon's ability however is not allowing a ship to "aquire" the target lock, the lock has already been acquired, by Jendon, it is just transferring the blue token from one ship to another.

Yeah, the action is the most common way to acquire a target lock, but not the only way. Jendon's ability however is not allowing a ship to "aquire" the target lock, the lock has already been acquired, by Jendon, it is just transferring the blue token from one ship to another.

Flavor-wise, it's like he's throwing the targeting data through his colleague through the Coms. Folks that don't have targeting computers can still use it, because Jendon's computers have already done the number-crunching.