Regionals Dates and Locations are up!

By pbpanchotest, in X-Wing

Region 1 should have 2 Regionals just like all of the other Regions.

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Looks like the list has been updated to include Boise as well for Region 1. And I was so sure it'd be Seattle and Portland. You know, where the people live...

I don't think pure geographical distribution is the "correct" distribution; population distribution should have also been taken into account a bit more.

For instance, it seems like the Spokane regional was placed there to better serve Idaho and Montana X-wing players. But, Greater Seattle has OVER DOUBLE the population of The entire states of MONTANA AND IDAHO COMBINED! Never mind mentioning Portland, Bellingham, and Vancouver!

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All 15 locations, sorted by date:

May 3: Bellevue, NE; Monroeville, PA; Pearland, TX

May 17: Centerville, OH; Greenfield, WI

May 24-25: Burlingame, CA

June 14: Roseville, MN

June 21: Kissimmee, FL

June 28: Mesa, AZ

July 19: Broomfield, CO; Plano, TX; Spokane, WA

July 26: Duluth, GA; Chicago, IL; Cambridge, MA

There are actually 16 listed locations: Boise, ID is listed as June 21st

So I can't complain about regionals placement from my own perspective — there are two within three hours of me, and a third that's five hours away (and a fourth that's six hours away!) so I guess living in the Midwest works out for once. But I'll agree that the locations could have been more evenly distributed. I'll also concede that this may not have been possible considering FFG didn't set up these locations; the stores reached out to FFG and had to meet certain criteria. But if I were to play Monday morning tournament organizer and could have ideal stores in any city I wanted, I'd make these changes:

  • Move Houston to San Antonio
  • Move Omaha to Kansas City
  • Move Chicago to Washington, D.C.
  • Move Dayton to Indianapolis
  • Move pittsburgh to Buffalo
  • Add Portland (giving Region 1 two tournaments)
  • Remove Milwaukee (leaving Region 3 with one centralized tournament at FFG's headquarters)

And here's what that hypothetical map would look like:

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As if stands now I am really lucky. I live in southern Wisconsin and will be able to attend 2 Regionals, Milwaukee which is just under an hour away and Chicago 2 hours away.

If the changes you proposed would have been the way it was done you would have a massive uproar from this part of the country. There is no perfect solution.

One other thing that hasn't been touched on is the distribution of Regionals for their other games. If you check those threads they are clearly using the same format but with a few exceptions they seem to be trying to spread the love for more of the game stores. You didn't get an X-Wing Regional but you did get SWLCG or GoT or Netrunner.

When you look at the Spokane situation you see that the coastal areas got other Regionals and it appears that Spokane was thrown a bone on this one.

Looking at just the X-Wing Regionals is looking at things in a vacuum. You have to look at the whole picture.

Can not believe you couldn't find a location in the #1 New York and #4 Philadelphia markets in the United States corridor for a regional championship. Please explain that rationale - did no one apply?

Are regionals only open to those who win Store Championships?

No they are open to anyone who wants to attend.

Region 1 should have 2 Regionals just like all of the other Regions.

THIS!

Looks like the list has been updated to include Boise as well for Region 1. And I was so sure it'd be Seattle and Portland. You know, where the people live...

Oh, interesting. So Region 1 does get two tournaments. I'll update my post on the first page of this thread.

Although now it really doesn't make sense to have one in Spokane.

All 15 locations, sorted by date:

May 3: Bellevue, NE; Monroeville, PA; Pearland, TX

May 17: Centerville, OH; Greenfield, WI

May 24-25: Burlingame, CA

June 14: Roseville, MN

June 21: Kissimmee, FL

June 28: Mesa, AZ

July 19: Broomfield, CO; Plano, TX; Spokane, WA

July 26: Duluth, GA; Chicago, IL; Cambridge, MA

There are actually 16 listed locations: Boise, ID is listed as June 21st

There were only 15 yesterday when I made that post.

As far as I could tell, the alt art card for luke skywalker is the 'rookie pilot' card from the rebel alliance side in the lcg....they should've just used it for the rookie pilot instead of Luke.

Alright, updated list and map:

All 16 locations, sorted by date:

May 3: Bellevue, NE; Monroeville, PA; Pearland, TX
May 17: Centerville, OH; Greenfield, WI
May 24-25: Burlingame, CA
June 14: Roseville, MN
June 21: Boise, ID; Kissimmee, FL
June 28: Mesa, AZ
July 19: Broomfield, CO; Plano, TX; Spokane, WA
July 26: Duluth, GA; Chicago, IL; Cambridge, MA

Cities hosting regionals marked with white dots:

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The regional in Burlingame, CA is on the 25th at 9am per the KublaCon schedule.

Edited by zathras23

Regionals should all be on the same day so there is no region jumping.

Why? The more people play the better it is for the game overall. I'd personally like to play in PA and OH. I'm not sure why that's a bad thing?

Can not believe you couldn't find a location in the #1 New York and #4 Philadelphia markets in the United States corridor for a regional championship. Please explain that rationale - did no one apply?

What store do you usually play at? Did they apply?

Some points about Spokane to clear up some of the FUD. Note that I lived in Northwest for decades so I know my facts.

Eugene or Bend Oregon is closer to Seattle than SPOKANE and at least you'd be on I-5 most of the time...

Spokane. 5-6 hours away from any major airport on a good day.

Seattle has I-90 to Spokane which is usually a less congested trip than I-5 to Portland. From Portland you have freeways all the way to Spokane except for the small stretch thru the Tri-Cities. Spokane has a large enough airport that Horizon has hourly shuttles to PDX and SEA. The amount of flights are not an issue if you decide to fly.

Plane tickets there and back would cost more than that and then you'd still have to find a place to stay and rent a car because there isn't a way to get around easily in Spokane! At least in Portland or Seattle you could train/plane/bus there and take public transit...

There is public transit in Spokane and it serves the airport. If you choose to take a cab it's far cheaper in Spokane vs. Seattle or Portland because of how close the airport is to downtown.

Ok, having cleared up some of this... let me just say that I think Seattle would have been the best place to hold the event due to the size of the population there. Ironic too, since Uncle's is there in Bellevue too. I'm guessing someone at FFG saw a large population center sitting there with good freeway access, a good airport, and a good game store and decided that they could serve the N ID and MT "crowd" using Spokane.

I agree with you on Boise.

Spokane's # of flights aren't the problem, those shuttles to PDX run $230-270 ONE WAY- first thing I did was check prices on flight and hotel. Unless I'm sleeping in my car or sharing with someone, 2 nights of hotel is still $300.And there aren't a whole lot of attractions, especially if you have no car- if I did, disc golf and other outdoorsy stuff but: see 8+ hour drive the next day. If I'm driving It's literally to JUST play an xwing tourney because all of the next day is driving home.

Nothing wrong with Spokane as a city. Just not an easy to get to destination, as it's an average of 5+ hours from just about every other major population center in the region and has no draw for anyone outside of the region.

I expect Canada's western regional to be in Seattle at this point.

The levels of hurt in this thread make me lol. I used to drive 16 hours round trip to be able to go to miniature tournaments four times a year. And those weren't major events, that was to just get to a tournament that wasn't run by myself. Suck it up princesses.

Agreed. If you really love playing the game suck it up and make a trip out of it. The event in Pittsburgh \ Monroeville is 5 min away from me so I got luck this year. But I'm probably still going to drive out to the event in Ohio as well which is like 5 hours away.

What is the max number of people per event? The event near me is not pre-registering which I thought was kind of odd. Which means if you drive hours to get to the event you still might not get to play?

Boise, Idaho? Awesome--they've added a 7 hr / 44 minute option!

The levels of hurt in this thread make me lol. I used to drive 16 hours round trip to be able to go to miniature tournaments four times a year. And those weren't major events, that was to just get to a tournament that wasn't run by myself. Suck it up princesses.

Agreed. If you really love playing the game suck it up and make a trip out of it. The event in Pittsburgh \ Monroeville is 5 min away from me so I got luck this year. But I'm probably still going to drive out to the event in Ohio as well which is like 5 hours away.

People are upset and they are just voicing their opinion. I've always found that forums tend to stratify people's opinions. It's either you whole heatedly agree or you furiously disagree and there seems to be very little empathy for the other side.

This thread comes down to this question:

Is it reasonable for you to spend $200 dollars (assuming a 4+hr drive's worth of gas and lodging) and up to 10 hours travel to play a mini game for a day?

For me, sadly, it's not reasonable at all. For some, that price isn't too bad. To each their own and while its not the end of the world, hopefully someone from FFG might see this and it might be useful in the future. If people don't speak out on it FFG would have no idea there is a problem for some people.

What is the max number of people per event? The event near me is not pre-registering which I thought was kind of odd. Which means if you drive hours to get to the event you still might not get to play?

The max # is up to the store. For the Bellevue Nebraska regional, there is no player limit. We can accommodate 100+ players. I am taking pre-registrations because there are only 64 cards. If more players come, then they will get to play just no card. The more the merrier in my book.

It's also garbage that Milwaukee and Chicago both got Regionals but nothing in DC/Philly/NYC or SEA/PDX.

Yeah they're technically in different regions, but it's beyond belief that FFG would put two Regionals an hour and a half apart and more than 2 months apart. Players there have a far, FAR easier time attending TWO Regionals where a lot of us will struggle to make it to even one.

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Edited by CatPeeler

More than likely I wouldn't have been able to attend a May/June Regional due to the arrival of our first (future X-Wing player, he is!), but the lack of a regional anywhere between NYC and DC for the Mid Atlantic is mind boggling. We are routinely getting 25+ for our tournaments in the DC/MD/VA area. Heck, we have been able to support someting like 10+ store championships around here. I am curious as to how the decision was made, I suspect it was a geographical rather than player density based decision.

What is the max number of people per event? The event near me is not pre-registering which I thought was kind of odd. Which means if you drive hours to get to the event you still might not get to play?

The max # is up to the store. For the Bellevue Nebraska regional, there is no player limit. We can accommodate 100+ players. I am taking pre-registrations because there are only 64 cards. If more players come, then they will get to play just no card. The more the merrier in my book.

Ok that make's sense I guess. The store that's hosting near me can hold like 200 easy.

It's also garbage that Milwaukee and Chicago both got Regionals but nothing in DC/Philly/NYC or SEA/PDX. Yeah they're technically in different regions, but it's beyond belief that FFG would put two Regionals an hour and a half apart and more than 2 months apart. Players there have a far, FAR easier time attending TWO Regionals where a lot of us will struggle to make it to even one.

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Sadly, the level of hurt on this forum because we are voicing an opinion makes me lol. Suck it up princesses!

Edited by Deadshane

Sadly, the level of hurt on this forum because we are voicing an opinion makes me lol. Suck it up princesses!

The problem is not with you being upset - of course people who can't make it have a right to be upset.

The issue is the lack of perspective. Something closer to you means something farther away from other people. That doesn't seem to enter into the griping, which comes off as very selfish.

You're entitled to your hurt feelings, but it's up to you how people will perceive it, and right now it looks like a bunch of selfish whining. Which is disappointing to see out of what people generally consider a good community, but I assure you you've got the hurt on the wrong side of this.

The levels of hurt in this thread make me lol. I used to drive 16 hours round trip to be able to go to miniature tournaments four times a year. And those weren't major events, that was to just get to a tournament that wasn't run by myself. Suck it up princesses.

Agreed. If you really love playing the game suck it up and make a trip out of it. The event in Pittsburgh \ Monroeville is 5 min away from me so I got luck this year. But I'm probably still going to drive out to the event in Ohio as well which is like 5 hours away.

People are upset and they are just voicing their opinion. I've always found that forums tend to stratify people's opinions. It's either you whole heatedly agree or you furiously disagree and there seems to be very little empathy for the other side.

This thread comes down to this question:

Is it reasonable for you to spend $200 dollars (assuming a 4+hr drive's worth of gas and lodging) and up to 10 hours travel to play a mini game for a day?

For me, sadly, it's not reasonable at all. For some, that price isn't too bad. To each their own and while its not the end of the world, hopefully someone from FFG might see this and it might be useful in the future. If people don't speak out on it FFG would have no idea there is a problem for some people.

$200 bucks and a 4 hour drive would not be that bad at all. I think a 6 hour drive is where I would probably start to have an issue.

And I know that people are tossing around the idea of having more regionals. But It looks like FF has decided that store championships are kind of like the old regionals and every store can have one. I kind of like the idea that they are making the regionals a more exclusive event and I personally don't have a problem traveling to things like that.

As far as the distribution goes. You're never going to satisfy everyone in a format like this. No matter what many people are going to have to travel to do these events (and will travel). I got lucky with xwing but unlucky with Netrunner and Star Wars LCG. So if I want to go to the latter two I've got to drive.

If your not able to make a trip out of it then I'm not sure what to say. Maybe these events aren't really for you. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything. I'm just saying that people should be prepared to have to drive to the bigger events. It shouldn't be such a shock or outrage. Its the nature of the beast. I was fully prepared to have to drive to all 3 to be honest with you.

Next thing you know, people are going to complain that Nats and Worlds are only a few hours away from each other, and that one should be on the east coast in NYC while the other one in the west coast at LA, er, my mistake - Seattle... Because it's unfair people in the midwest can drive to both events while people on both coasts have to fly to either event.