Does anyone else find it odd the Enforcer's Loom talent helps his buddies to be more charming?
Loom helps with Charm?
I find it kind of charming that Han Solo has a big furry buddy who hangs around him. Heck, Han even pets him sometimes.
It all depends on how you narrate it, I think.
On the rim having a big tough guy to back you up suggests you are important and/or have credits, there's something charming about that to some people...
The idea that selecting the best wingman for picking up someone at a bar is to find the scariest dude around seems more than a little odd to me.
The idea that selecting the best wingman for picking up someone at a bar is to find the scariest dude around seems more than a little odd to me.
Seemed to Work for Kanye.......
I feel dirty for having posted that.....
It depends on how you narrate it. It helps to occasionally be flexible or open-minded as well.
If the way your Hired Gun character narrates his use of "Loom" is this:
"I stand behind you, flexing my muscles, growling and cracking my knuckles. Occasionally I bare my fangs and let loose a low growl. I draw my finger across my throat in a 'you're dead' motion toward whoever you're speaking to."
...then perhaps it might not be the most appropriate use of Loom to enhance a Charm check.
If they're describing using it in a more genial way, as opposed to a more literal reading of the word "Loom", then it might be appropriate for a Charm check.
It makes you seem reasonable by comparison.
The number of times my RPG group has tried "Good cop, Bad cop" and all I could give was a Boost die is higher than you would think. Loom lets them do that.
It makes you seem reasonable by comparison.
I don't know how Loom works, but this sounds like what's being described.
Think about Han Solo trying to reason with someone, "Charm" them, by saying something to the effect of, "You really want to talk to me, because if Chewie gets involved, you're going to regret it." You're saying the person should deal with you, because you're reasonable, you can work things out with words, but this brute here, he's going to rip your arms off and beat you with them until you give us what you want, so let's talk, shall we?
I imagine Loom means that you're the big brute and are making an effort to look especially menacing, which makes everyone else seem like less of a threat, and therefore someone you're more inclined to deal with on a social level.
LOL... I didn't know about this Talent. So I read the subject and I am wondering how weaving could be charming.
I was thinking about loom, the noun, not loom, the verb!
Taking my silly first impression into account, I definitely agree with yeti1069 (who was agreeing with Doc so I guess we need to start singing kumbaya!). I think that's what is probably implied. You look all big and bad and threatening. Your buddies do the old, "I'm willing to talk... or you can just give me the name of your next of kin if you'd rather deal with HIM." trick.
Edited by PrettyHaleyA little Good Cop / Bad Cop goes a long way.
The number of times my RPG group has tried "Good cop, Bad cop"...
I'd say that's a stellar example of how Loom would work with a Charm check.
"Hey, you can deal with me, Mr. Nice Guy, that's being polite and rationale and wants to work with you on this... or you can deal with my very surly buddy here, who won't mind if you get a little roughed up. Your choice."
That's the core of the whole "good cop, bad cop" routine, is to generally get the person to cooperate with the good cop rather than have to deal with the bad cop. The Loom talent simply defaults the character into the roll of "bad cop."
Oskara: "Come with us. We can protect you - I promise."
I could see she wasn't convinced, but then she looked over at CC-2N8 - who was scanning the bar, looking for threats - and she could see we had the muscle to back up my words.
Several good examples here.
For some reason my first thoughts went to making a good first impression and thinking that the thug wasn't going to be helpful. But then everyone reminded me of the kinds of places Edge characters usually lurk when making those impressions... 
And it provides Advantages, not Successes, so it doesn't actually make the other character more friendly, just lets you get a little more out of the interaction.
LOL... I didn't know about this Talent. So I read the subject and I am wondering how weaving could be charming.
I was thinking about loom, the noun, not loom, the verb!
And of course being an old school gamer, I instantly thought of this type of Loom:
