At least Arron Allston didn't have to see this travesty...

Corran Horn's iconic fighter was the X Wing...wonder if part of the reason they tossed him in the Ewing pack was to drive sales :/

Wow, first of all this is so mind-blowingly insensitive it defies belief. If you want to disapprove of their pilot choice, go for it. Show some respect and leave the guy who died a few days ago out of it. Using his name to promote your own opinion just illustrates how little respect you actually have for the man. He's not a propoganda tool.

Second, they needed a good, high ps E-wing pilot, pure and simple. And yes, of course they wanted a name people would recognize - that's why Smug Lerr isn't the ps9 Falcon pilot. Is Corran as intrinsically linked to the E-wing as Luke or Wedge is to the X-wing, or Han and Chewie are to the Falcon? No, but all the Rogues flew E-wings at some point, and they already have a glut of named X-wing pilots with the core set, expansion, and now the Transport coming out.

Doesn't mean you won't ever see him, or Tycho, or others in X-wings too at some point down the road. Either way, make your axes, express how this has shattered your entire worldview and broken your faith in your fellow man, whatever.

But do it without cashing in on the loss of a man many on here liked, and some actually knew and cared for as a person.

You seem pretty simple, you looked at my post and became butt inflamed without actually comprehending. I'm not making fun of Aaron. He's not my 'propaganda tool' or whatever drivel you spewed. Aaron was one of my favorite EU authors.

I think Aaron would have been pretty sad to see one of his iconic characters that he breathed life into being stuck in this joke of a ship. So yeah, at least he didn't have to see this.

Now, go losen your fedora a few notches, I think it's adding to your crankiness.

I think you just did what you accused me of.

I did not say you were making fun of him - I said you were putting your words in his mouth and showing a disturbing lack of class and respect due to the fact the guy JUST passed away. If you liked his work as much as you claim to - never mind whether he had anything to do with the creation of this character or not - I would have expected you to be a lot less crass in using the guy's death to push your personal point of view.

Nothing crass or insensitive about my original post, you're just overly sensitive and/or looking for something to whine about.

No, you are putting your opinions in an author's mouth. And given how recently he passed away, that is in extremely bad taste.

I mean, we'll also ignore the fact that Corran was Stackpole's creation and pet character, it is still a terrible thing to say.

It is fine if you are not happy with it, but don't try to use an author's passing to highlight your opinion. Especially since it seems likely to have a Corran X-wing pilot eventually.

I'm not putting anything in the author's mouth, I'm speculating that he'd have been upset to see it too. I know I would be. He may have been Stackpole's creation, but Aaron added to his story considerably.

Now, chill out and take a time-out or something, and stop trying to twist people's words to fit your fancy.

I think the first part was aimed at me. Yes I was assuming his opinion. I think the man was grown up enough to not let this bother him as much as its bothering others.

No, that was directed in its entirety at HunterEste, for claiming that the recently deceased would have been appalled to see Corran Horn in an E-Wing, simply because he doesn't care for it.

Claiming to speak for a dead man, presuming to know what his point of view on this or any other subject would have been, when he just passed away and a great many people on these forums respected or even knew him personally, is incredibly insensitive and crass. If you can't see that I can certainly understand how you could be so incredibly insensitive in the first place. So you've got that going for you, I guess.

Claiming to speak for a dead man, presuming to know what his point of view on this or any other subject would have been, when he just passed away and a great many people on these forums respected or even knew him personally, is incredibly insensitive and crass. If you can't see that I can certainly understand how you could be so incredibly insensitive in the first place. So you've got that going for you, I guess.

Yup, definitely thin-skin and oversensitive.

Yup, definitely thick-headed and insensitive.

[Plays Mirax Terrik card into forum]

Mirax Terrik:

Slaps everybody upside the head, absolves all stress, and channels her inner Booster Terrik while saying, "Can we get back on subject here?"

Yup, definitely thick-headed and insensitive.

*Fedora tipping intensifies*

You're the one taking my quote, blowing it out of context and proportion to have your own little crusade of tears. Honestly claiming I'm putting words in someone's mouth, by trying to warp and change my words as well as inject words of your own...smh

Your words: At least Arron Allston didn't have to see this travesty..

How is that NOT a. insensitive, b. projecting your own opinion onto him, by assuming he would have considered it a travesty to begin with, and c. in any way warping or changing your words?

Those are your exact words; the recently deceased author, whose name you butchered, would have considered this, and I quote, "a travesty," according to you. That is the definition of putting your words in his mouth, and considering he passed so recently, pulling out the 'would be rolling over in his grave' argument is incredibly insensitive.

Your words: At least Arron Allston didn't have to see this travesty..

How is that NOT a. insensitive, b. projecting your own opinion onto him, by assuming he would have considered it a travesty to begin with, and c. in any way warping or changing your words?

Those are your exact words; the recently deceased author, whose name you butchered, would have considered this, and I quote, "a travesty," according to you. That is the definition of putting your words in his mouth, and considering he passed so recently, pulling out the 'would be rolling over in his grave' argument is incredibly insensitive.

That's not insensitive at all. You're just thin-skinned. Also you're adding imaginary meaning to my post and slowly ticking into the 'slippery slope' fallacy range. I consider this a travesty, I didn't say the author would have.

I'm just happy he didn't see this, I have a feeling it wouldn't have been a high point for him. Disney just pulled the creative plug on the EU indefinately, just after his latest Xwing book was published.

You think he would have been all roses and sunshine about one of his characters being shoehorned into one of the most garbage EU fighters?

Again, you are taking my post out of context and proving you didn't actually comprehend what I was saying.

Insensitive would have been saying 'He found out before we did, FFG's plans. This turn of events is what killed him'.

Seriously if you are that upset because of my post you need to step offline for a bit, for your own health.

Also,

Why are you so hurt that I typoed his name? Your OCD is showing, welcome to the internet, typos happen. I hit an extra 'r' instead of an 'a', oh no!

I'm not upset. If you want to be an ass, that's your business. But own it - don't try to claim someone is twisting your words and trying to make you look bad. You just spewed out about a half dozen of your own opinions "it's a travesty," "wouldn't have been a high point," "happy he didn't see this," "garbage EU fighters..." and projecting all of that onto him, by assuming that he would have in any way, shape or form shared your opinions, which you have no way of knowing. You're doing that, right there. That is in fact the thing you are doing.

I'm not upset. If you want to be an ass, that's your business. But own it - don't try to claim someone is twisting your words and trying to make you look bad. You just spewed out about a half dozen of your own opinions "it's a travesty," "wouldn't have been a high point," "happy he didn't see this," "garbage EU fighters..." and projecting all of that onto him, by assuming that he would have in any way, shape or form shared your opinions, which you have no way of knowing. You're doing that, right there. That is in fact the thing you are doing.

No dear, that is 'in fact' your opinion and your misinterpretation of what I am saying.

It's not, though - you just expressed all of those opinions, in those words, and at the same time implied at every step that he would have shared your views.

It's not, though - you just expressed all of those opinions, in those words, and at the same time implied at every step that he would have shared your views.

There you go again, trying to add hidden meaning where there is none.

All right, man - "own it," "weasel and backpedal on it," whatever floats your boat.

All right, man - "own it," "weasel and backpedal on it," whatever floats your boat.

Like the energizer bunny he's still going!

He said, without a trace of self-irony.

As much as I would have preferred him in an X-Wing, in the end I'm just happy he's in the game. Also, I can't wait to make a 'jedi' list with him, Luke and Kyle. Might not be competitive, but would likely be fun in casual, at least for fluff purposes.

As much as I would have preferred him in an X-Wing, in the end I'm just happy he's in the game. Also, I can't wait to make a 'jedi' list with him, Luke and Kyle. Might not be competitive, but would likely be fun in casual, at least for fluff purposes.

Spoilers!

I suspect it's only a matter of time until we see some guys like Corran or Tycho show up in alternate ships. Still a ton of X-Wing pilots even from the Battle of Yavin they could include to sell repaints or card packs, but I know there's a lot of demand for some of the Rogues to show up in X-Wings, or Maarek Stele to show up in...literally anything else...

Whoa...

Just keep calm and perform a green maneuver.

As much as I would have preferred him in an X-Wing, in the end I'm just happy he's in the game. Also, I can't wait to make a 'jedi' list with him, Luke and Kyle. Might not be competitive, but would likely be fun in casual, at least for fluff purposes.

Spoilers!

I suspect it's only a matter of time until we see some guys like Corran or Tycho show up in alternate ships. Still a ton of X-Wing pilots even from the Battle of Yavin they could include to sell repaints or card packs, but I know there's a lot of demand for some of the Rogues to show up in X-Wings, or Maarek Stele to show up in...literally anything else...

Could you guys please take your off-topic argument to private message level? Or just execute a green maneuver as @Ravncat said?

I'm not happy seeing Corran in an E-wing instead of repainted X-wing, featuring Whistler card, but nonetheless I'm happy to see him at all. Maybe the future will bring us old pilots in different ships, who knows? And I'm almost sure Corran did flew E-wing in some comic books

Also, I'm extremely curious about his special rule. I guess it can allow you to take some action but thus disabling you to attack this turn - could be a powerful defensive abilty, but also could be very situational. The out-of-turn shot some people suggest seem inconsistent with the character to me, of course he's Corellian, but kind of diffrent sort than Wedge or Han (or Fel).

Also, I like the suggested Jedi-list, with Luke, Kyle and Corran it has a lot of both offensive and defensive potential

Taking a green.

I think that pilots like Corran and others are perfect examples of the possibilities of some sort of card only expansion pack.

Clearly we won't be seeing a new X-Wing as any sort of rebel aces pack, not with the number of pilots we already have and the ones coming out with the Transport.

But that also is assuming that FFG will ever put a pilot into more then one type of ship, which has yet to happen. They may very well have a policy that a given pilot can't be in another ship... Not sure why but considering we have yet to see it happen, after 4 waves, plus the Aces, Transport and CR-90...

Well there's enough pilots out there that there is simply no real reason to put them in more then one ship, rather then putting a currently unreleased pilot into the game.

As much as I would have preferred him in an X-Wing, in the end I'm just happy he's in the game. Also, I can't wait to make a 'jedi' list with him, Luke and Kyle. Might not be competitive, but would likely be fun in casual, at least for fluff purposes.

Spoilers!

I suspect it's only a matter of time until we see some guys like Corran or Tycho show up in alternate ships. Still a ton of X-Wing pilots even from the Battle of Yavin they could include to sell repaints or card packs, but I know there's a lot of demand for some of the Rogues to show up in X-Wings, or Maarek Stele to show up in...literally anything else...

I don't know a lot of the EU. What did he actually fly in? (Steele)

He flew a number of ships, and is known for flying the TIE Defender, TIE Avenger and Missile Boat. For more details: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Maarek_Stele

As much as I would have preferred him in an X-Wing, in the end I'm just happy he's in the game. Also, I can't wait to make a 'jedi' list with him, Luke and Kyle. Might not be competitive, but would likely be fun in casual, at least for fluff purposes.

Spoilers!

I suspect it's only a matter of time until we see some guys like Corran or Tycho show up in alternate ships. Still a ton of X-Wing pilots even from the Battle of Yavin they could include to sell repaints or card packs, but I know there's a lot of demand for some of the Rogues to show up in X-Wings, or Maarek Stele to show up in...literally anything else...

I don't know a lot of the EU. What did he actually fly in? (Steele)

He was the PC in the old TIE Fighter game, so I suspect he actually flew basically everything at some point in the game.

He flew a number of ships...

My bad... Thought we were talking about Corran. Yeah Steele flew everything in the Tie Fighter game.