If I use a focus to activate a Baster Turret, can I also use a different focus after I roll the attack dice to change the dice from focus to hit?

I only ask because I don’t know if this counts as the same action twice.

Well, yes - and no.

Say you have Recon Specialist? Yes. You get 2 focus tokens with a single focus action, and could spend one to fire the turret, the other could be spent to modify the attack roll, or saved for defense, because tokens are separate from actions.

You could not perform the focus action twice, though. So if you have a means of getting more than one focus token (RecSpec, Garven passes you one, etc), you're good. If someone grants you a free action, or free focus action, you can't use it to take another focus, however, because free or not it's still an action and can't be repeated.

It's good to keep this in mind.

Action does not equal token.

You can only preform 1 focus action per turn, but you could in theory spend 30 focus tokens in a single turn. Not that you could ever get 30 or find 30 things to spend them on...

This is true of things like giving a TL token to a ship that doesn't have the TL action. Or an evade token for that matter if there was an ability out there that let you do that.

Using the Focus action nets you a focus Token. You can't use the focus action twice (as you can't do the same action twice in the same round).

However, if you gain a second token, that is not the same thing as having done the focus action twice.

For example: You choose a focus as your action and have a Recon specialist (which gives you 2 tokens for a focus action). You can now spend those two focus tokens at any legal point before the end of the round.

It's good to keep this in mind.

Action does not equal token.

You can only preform 1 focus action per turn, but you could in theory spend 30 focus tokens in a single turn. Not that you could ever get 30 or find 30 things to spend them on...

This is true of things like giving a TL token to a ship that doesn't have the TL action. Or an evade token for that matter if there was an ability out there that let you do that.

Partly true.

"Action does not equal token." VERY TRUE. You can have any number of Focus token although you can only take the Focus action yourself once each turn.

"Not that you could ever get 30 [focus tokens] or find 30 things to spend them on..." FALSE. If you have the Moldy Crow that ship does not lose all of its Focus tokens at the end of each round. This means it COULD get 30 tokens on it and have Garven and a Recon Specialist would really help do that. Now if that ship was fired on 30 times it would have things to spend those token on granted it probably can't survive 30 attacks.

Excluding the HWK with Moldy Crow on it the most Focus tokens I've figured a ship could get is 5. This would be a YT-1300 with TWO Recon Specialists on board so that if it takes the Focus action it will get 3 tokens. On top of those Kyle would hand over a Focus and when Garven spends one he could also hand it over. It may not always be practical but it is possible.

So if I have a turret blaster on a Y-wing and us a focus to activate it, then can I use the free focus from Garven to modify my roll?

So if I have a turret blaster on a Y-wing and us a focus to activate it, then can I use the free focus from Garven to modify my roll?

What is this Garven you speak of?

Someone gives you a Focus token to go with one you already have you can use one to power the blaster turret and another to modify the attack.

Garven "Dave" Dreis

and thank you for the answer.

If you have the Moldy Crow that ship does not lose all of its Focus tokens at the end of each round. This means it COULD get 30 tokens on it and have Garven and a Recon Specialist would really help do that.

Yes in theory you could do that, but it's not realistic or practical. With Recon Spec, you'd have to fly around taking focus actions for 15 rounds and not spend any. Even with Graven you'll still looking at 10 rounds, only this time you have 2 ships flying around doing nothing.

Realistically you'll not survive that long without spending those focus tokens. So as a practical matter you'll never see a ship with 30 focus tokens on it.

As a practical answer I'll have to agree, you'll never see a ship with 30 Focus tokens on it. Just because you'll probably never see it that still doesn't mean it could happen. You may never see a jackpot winning lottery ticket in your hand but it could happen otherwise why would anyone buy them.

Nobody even came close yo suggesting it was practical, he was just pointing out that it was, in fact, theoretically possible

he was just pointing out that it was, in fact, theoretically possible

Yes but I didn't think it was necessary to point out it was in theory possible.

I mean when someone tells me I made a false statement, because something is in theory possible then I think it's completely appropriate to point out that while it might be in theory possible, that isn't the same thing as it being possible by any practical sense.

Because if we all agree that it is practicably impossible, then why bother pointing out it's possible in theory at all? Unless the whole point was to tell me I was wrong about something.

I think it was that your original statement made it sound like you were saying it was a theoretical impossibility. I just went back and reread it and realize that what you actually said doesn't necessarily mean that, but on first reading that wax how I room it and I imagine that was what steveno thought you were saying as well. Basically just a slight bit of confusion over a minor bit of phrasing followed by a bit of pedantic-ism.

Basically just a slight bit of confusion over a minor bit of phrasing followed by a bit of pedantic-ism.

funny thing is. I put that line in there because otherwise I figured someone would come along and say "well not like you could ever get 30 focus tokens." and derail the thread...

Basically just a slight bit of confusion over a minor bit of phrasing followed by a bit of pedantic-ism.

funny thing is. I put that line in there because otherwise I figured someone would come along and say "well not like you could ever get 30 focus tokens." and derail the thread...

I guess we can consider the thread derailed. The problem to me is simply the word "could" is an absolute because you COULD get 30 focus token. This is easily disproven. If you had said something like "would ever get" you are introducing a bit of thought into the process. You COULD get 30 focus tokens but there are few/no situations where you WOULD get 30 focus tokens.

It may be tearing things apart but there are accurate ways to say things and inaccurate ways which are taken incorrectly. How many of us have heard the question "do you want to?" or "if you want to?" or even "can you?" when the actual answer isn't what is expected.

I'm not sure what that means….. But does that mean a tie fighter (for example) could barrel roll and focus?

I'm not sure what that means….. But does that mean a tie fighter (for example) could barrel roll and focus?

Under what circumstances? This thread has gotten so far off I'm not sure what that is in reference to.

I'm not sure what that means….. But does that mean a tie fighter (for example) could barrel roll and focus?

If the Tie Fighter was somehow granted two actions (like, say, Night Beast, or a Black/Mauler/Howlrunner with Push the Limit), then yes .

However, in most cases, a single action is all you can take.

Moreover, a Tie Fighter who barrel rolled who got the focus token through non-action means (like being on a team with Garven Dreis or Kyle Katarn, somehow), it would still receive the Focus Token, and could spend it normally.

I think that covers all the possible bases.