I can't wait. I want them NOW!!!

I have not been more excited about a new wave since they (FINALLY) announced the B-Wing.

The B-Wing, E-Wing, Tie Defender, Starfury and Narn Frazi are my top space fighters.

On the matter of expansion, yes some games don't have them or many if any and still do well. I'd suggest however they don't do as well for the company as ones with good expansions that open the game up more and offer new things to look forward to. As of right now while the game has good balance, at top levels there still isn't hundreds of viable top tier builds and there would need to be a lot of tweaking to make it so. They have done a very good job so far with the game and I am very thankful for such.

I like variety however, and expansions give that. Sooner or later without further expanding, profits will drop off. People won't keep just buying the old ships over and over and without new releases they will lose interest of a great many. I know a great few are quite unhappy with Aces taking so long and I doubt the ones we see here are alone in that. The company wants to grow, and keep peoples interest, not stall and settle off then begin to shrink their profits. FFG knows how expansions help with profit and keeping a game alive, they love doing such so it must work for them.

That said, you can expand without bloat, and they've not broken the system yet. Unless you consider Tie swarm broken, or tooled up wedge, bigss and luke broken. Some builds in wave 1 are still top tier and I don't see them going away anytime soon. As long as they keep things pretty balanced, expansion is great, people want variety and want to give them more money. Not everyone needs to buy in with each new release, though the price is cheap enough and the releases so slow I don't think its hard to keep up if you wish to.

Expansion hints to growth, without growth they won't keep supporting it so happily, as its that growth that will keep people buying, pay for the work in tournaments, for all the new ships we've not yet seen, keep people coming in new and perhaps, catch the eye of someone who was waiting for " That one ship " to be released. I think that is their intent, and I think its a good one.

Personal opinion of course.

There's plenty of room for this game to expand without introducing new types of starfighters/ships. For one thing, this game would benefit GREATLY from new official scenarios. I'd also love to see more Crew and Elite Ability cards.

The idea that FFG could or would continue to support the game without continuing to expand on it is really not thought out.

Asking a gaming company to continue to support and tweak a game, while cutting out the largest portion of their sales (new releases) is an untenable request.

This isn't a boardgame. You didn't buy into that type of game.

If I can afford it I will get 1 of each; only for the upgrade cards.

I have what I like already.

For me it all boils down to how cool the ship looks.

I like the TIE Defender....and that's it for the new wave

I'm excited for more.

I hope they will do the IG-2000 (IG-88's ship) one day.

I would enjoy having that and Slave I duking it out as they get the Millennium Falcon.

I feel that I should clarify that I'm excited about the gameplay, but the actual designs of the E-Wing, Z-95, and Phantom don't really fit the look of Star Wars to me. The Defender is okay. It's just that the Phantom looks like a knock-off Star Wars copy toy and the E-Wing and Z-95 fit the look of the original Battlestar Galactica.

the E-Wing and Z-95 fit the look of the original Battlestar Galactica.

The E-Wing does look a bit like the Vipers, but the Z-95??

I feel that I should clarify that I'm excited about the gameplay, but the actual designs of the E-Wing, Z-95, and Phantom don't really fit the look of Star Wars to me. The Defender is okay. It's just that the Phantom looks like a knock-off Star Wars copy toy and the E-Wing and Z-95 fit the look of the original Battlestar Galactica.

I've always found this view strange, as the E-wing and especially the Z-95 designs seem so clearly evolved from the classic X-wing to me. I suppose everyone has their own opinions

Well, we haven't seen all the cards and pilots, so right now I'm on the fence. Forced to choose between not excited and excited, I'd say 'not'. The could have just as easily come up with new pilots for the existing crafts to yield the same meta. They could have gone the yt-1300 route - made a X-wing that has the same stats as an Z-95, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm still going to buy multiples of all of them and will undoubtably come to love them, but for now, I'm kind of 'meh'. Who knows what those other pilot skills and costs are though...

I'm also a bit pessimistic based on how long it's going to be until we see them, that dampers my enthusiasm as well. I'll probably be as giddy as my kids christmas morning when they actually are in stores.

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made a X-wing that has the same stats as an Z-95, etc.

But they wouldn't sell nearly as many of those. It's like the repaints, I'm sure a lot of people will buy those, and they'll make a nice profit. But I already have 4 Tie Interceptors, so I'm not going to buy 2 boxes of the Aces.

Offer a reprinted X-Wing with Z-95 stats? I don't know if I'd even bother with it. Maybe 1, but not 6, which is how many Z-95's I plan on getting. I'm sure I'm not alone in that either, I don't think most people would be all that thrilled with some sort of official proxie setup. Where we start using X-Wings as Z-95's and Tie Advanced as Tie Defenders.

Plus then you run into the issue that is inherent in proxies, the fact that it can be tricky to keep track of just what is what.

As an Imperial fan, the ships I have waited for since Wave 1 were the Interceptor, Defender, Avenger, and Assault Gunboat. Wave 2 was extremely exciting, was blown away with Imperial Aces (I am going to buy two!) and I am thrilled about Wave 4. To be honest, I was the least excited about Wave 3: it kind of bored me.

I hope we will soon see a second Imperial Aces pack that allows the TIE/adv to be upgraded to the Avenger (+1 attack die, maybe add a System Upgrade) and as a second ship have the Aggressor (+180° Rear firing arc).

If I may add in, I'm thrilled of the EU push with this coming wave. While the original ships are good as well, if we don't push into the EU all we're looking at then is repaints and some new pilots. Which, while I am thrilled about the Imp Aces, just a bunch of repaints and some new cards and pilots for old ships will eventually grow quite old. I'd rather keep up the excitement with the EU ships and I am sure they'll do the repaints and new boxes like Imp Aces as well at this point.

So, no I don't feel that way, I feel all additions, depending on balance and playability are good steps forward.

Edit: As for why expansion is good. While some people I am sure don't need expansions. As a company, they want to make money, and in todays now now now world, many people will get bored with a game that grows stagnant. So expansions keep people excited, keeps the scene vibrant, and stirs up sales. The more people who retain playing the game, the more new players will join in seeing a strong community, keeps them buying, keeps stores keeping them in stock, keeps making FFG money, keeps them working on expansions and additions, etc.

While Chess hasn't changed in quite some time, it also isn't really considered exciting. Nor is chess going to single handedly keep a store afloat, keep most peoples interest. Chess is a great game, a time tested game, but new sells, so that is why expansion is good. Expansion with control is good, expansion without purpose, like in warhammer can be bad.

I don't mind expansions per se.... but expansions can destroy a game and has ruined many. So expansion with control is right.

That and I don't know of any single game that keeps game stores afloat and... chess has been around for a long time. I hope Star Wars will be the same. Even if they stop the expansions.

P.S. I loved the defender from years ago.

I feel that I should clarify that I'm excited about the gameplay, but the actual designs of the E-Wing, Z-95, and Phantom don't really fit the look of Star Wars to me. The Defender is okay. It's just that the Phantom looks like a knock-off Star Wars copy toy and the E-Wing and Z-95 fit the look of the original Battlestar Galactica.

The funny thing is most of those people that made those models for Star Wars (Ralph McQuarrie, Joe Johnston, Richard Edlund to name a few) went on to make the ones in the original Battlestar Galactica as well.

I'm kinda excited to play with the Tie-Defender as I loved that ship in the old computer game Tie Fighter. However, I don't really feel wow'd about any of the other ships... May change as we get more details about some of the cards that come with everything.

The only reason that I am not excited about the next wave is that I'm going to have to find some way of upgrading my storage system. I bought a really sweet metal 'briefcase looking' toolbox from WalMart. It perfectly fits a couple of trays of Battlefoam, but I don't have room for any more. I don't want to do the Plano box because I want all my models nestled safely in their foam prisons.

I feel that I should clarify that I'm excited about the gameplay, but the actual designs of the E-Wing, Z-95, and Phantom don't really fit the look of Star Wars to me. The Defender is okay. It's just that the Phantom looks like a knock-off Star Wars copy toy and the E-Wing and Z-95 fit the look of the original Battlestar Galactica.

The funny thing is most of those people that made those models for Star Wars (Ralph McQuarrie, Joe Johnston, Richard Edlund to name a few) went on to make the ones in the original Battlestar Galactica as well.

I just read the Making of Star Wars books and that was an interesting detail.

This is probably the most excited I have been for a release. More so then the falcon and slave 1.

I love the EU and have read most of the books and eagerly await some ships from those books ie. Chiss clawcraft(imperial)

I understand the purists (not a fan of the prequels) but if they just took from the movies this game would be done and that would suck.

At least 4 z-95's for me and probably 3 of each of the others.

I agree overall this is my fav wave. I can also understand the anger of the purists... Techanically speaking their world has been fliped upside down. For many years completist had to stay in the shadows and take cheep shoots from other fandoms during vs debates. The classic card they would pull out is "GL says eu is not canon so you cant use anything out of movies."

Now EU is just canon as the movies... In that regard the true SW purists should be given respect.

I'm VERY excited about the wave.

Let us just hope we actually GET it before Lucas' kibbosh of the EU hits FFG.

This might well be the first and last one.

"I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it further."

I played just about everything on PC till Lucas Arts started to focus on the N64 so really to me, a TIE Defender might not have been in the movies, but it was a TIE. X-Wing to me is sort of like Micromachines for grown-ups, and having the video game stuff I spent so much time with too? Sounds even better.

Not to mention, the Imperials really didn't have much else actually in the movies that would fit on the table to go toe-to-toe with the corvette. So I think dipping into the X-Wing games is at least a fair solution.

This is probably the most excited I have been for a release. More so then the falcon and slave 1.

I love the EU and have read most of the books and eagerly await some ships from those books ie. Chiss clawcraft(imperial)

I understand the purists (not a fan of the prequels) but if they just took from the movies this game would be done and that would suck.

At least 4 z-95's for me and probably 3 of each of the others.

I agree overall this is my fav wave. I can also understand the anger of the purists... Techanically speaking their world has been fliped upside down. For many years completist had to stay in the shadows and take cheep shoots from other fandoms during vs debates. The classic card they would pull out is "GL says eu is not canon so you cant use anything out of movies."

Now EU is just canon as the movies... In that regard the true SW purists should be given respect.

Just because someone in charge is making a bad decision to wipe the plate clean in many regards, doesn't validate a few decades of stubborn resistance, because certain items and events "aren't in the movies."

I"m sure they are doing it from a financial standpoint, not wanting to dish out however many thousands of dollars to use material created by a myriad of writers over the years. It's a big headache to negotiate with others who may own the rights to certain characters and designs. It can tie up production for YEARS.

made a X-wing that has the same stats as an Z-95, etc.

But they wouldn't sell nearly as many of those. It's like the repaints, I'm sure a lot of people will buy those, and they'll make a nice profit. But I already have 4 Tie Interceptors, so I'm not going to buy 2 boxes of the Aces.

Offer a reprinted X-Wing with Z-95 stats? I don't know if I'd even bother with it. Maybe 1, but not 6, which is how many Z-95's I plan on getting. I'm sure I'm not alone in that either, I don't think most people would be all that thrilled with some sort of official proxie setup. Where we start using X-Wings as Z-95's and Tie Advanced as Tie Defenders.

Plus then you run into the issue that is inherent in proxies, the fact that it can be tricky to keep track of just what is what.

There is no reason to stop making this game, even if they stop developing it, unless their license runs out and they are unable to renew it. A company with the best star wars miniatures ever made for mass production should be around for a long time.

I'm VERY excited about the wave.

Let us just hope we actually GET it before Lucas' kibbosh of the EU hits FFG.

This might well be the first and last one.

"I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it further."

Having lived in Florida for a number of years, I can definitely understand and respect maintaining some healthy skepticism about Darth Mouse. Nevertheless, I'm absolutely certain that FFG will be able to continue moving forward with the game. Disney likes to bring stuff in-house when they can (thus yanking Dark Horse's license in favor of Marvel), but they don't have a business unit that does anything like FFG's work.

And based on the fact that they literally can't keep X-wing on store shelves, I'm guessing Disney is pretty happy with FFG as licensees. So to me the worst-case scenario isn't that the license is canceled--it's that Disney buys FFG and starts exercising "oversight" the way Hasbro did with Wizards of the Coast.