In which we take a current all-star, and construct a build with the exact same point-cost that might be better.
As an example,
Han Solo
+ Marksmanship
+ Gunner
+ Chewbacca
vs
Han Solo
+ Push the Limit
+ Gunner
+ Recon Specialist
+ Millennium Falcon Title
Which is better: Interceptor round!
Soontir Fel
+ Push the Limit
+ Stealth Device
vs
Turr Phennir
+ Push the Limit
+ Royal Guard Interceptor Title
+ Stealth Device
+ Targeting Computer
You mean something like this?
Wedge + PtL + R2
Wedge + R2D2
Wedge + Shield Upgrade
Wedge + Engine Upgrade
Wedge + Proton Torpedo
Or do you want comments on the comparison already made?
Han #2 gives up a little crit power and becomes a lot more predictable with movement as it often takes stress. It also needs those actions a good bit more (7 points of "Action" needing upgrades vs. just 3) so blocking is more effective against it.
Wedge + PtL + R2
Wedge + R2D2
Wedge + Shield Upgrade
Wedge + Engine Upgrade
Wedge + Proton Torpedo
I'd also add Wedge + Hull Upgrade + R5 into the mix, and would say that Wedge + Shield and Wedge + Proton are generally inferior to the other Wedges.
Wedge no. 1 gives us great Action Economy, which leads to a very high offense, and the R2 keeps him from losing mobility to do so. However, this is a case purely of strengthening his largest asset, leaving him as vulnerable as a Wedge with no upgrades.
Wedge no. 2 gives us our (theoretically) most survivable Wedge, but he still goes down very quickly to focused fire. Still, I'd rather have Shield Regen than +1 Shield, as if he survives two rounds of combat you'll be in the profit here.
Wedge no. 4 gives us our most mobile Wedge, which will translate into a Wedge with higher offensive and defensive capabilities. However, this will often come at the expense of his normal actions. Engine Upgrade's worth lies entirely in how you fly him, rather than in sheer numbers, but this one's definitely a good option for him.
Wedge no. (My suggestion) gives Wedge some much needed Tankiness. It gives him the +1 HP of Wedge no. 3 (which was inferior to Wedge no. 2 in most situations), makes him slightly more Crit-Resistant, and has a weak form of regeneration (in that you can downgrade multiple crits given enough turns to do so). A strong contender, in my opinion.
Han #2 gives up a little crit power and becomes a lot more predictable with movement as it often takes stress. It also needs those actions a good bit more (7 points of "Action" needing upgrades vs. just 3) so blocking is more effective against it.
Additionally, Han #2 (if maintaining his actions) improves his survivability by quite a bit while also maintaining (most) of his offense. If he manages to spend his PTL'd Evade more than 2 times, then he's dodged more damage than discarding Chewbacca would allow. Similarly with any defensive foci left around after he attacks.
Also, remember that even if he doesn't get his actions for the turn, he's still Han Solo with a Gunner, and so gets the better part of 2 Target Locks a turn.
Which is better: Interceptor round!
Soontir Fel
vs
Turr Phennir
Forgive me, I could be mistaken, since I'm not the original poster. 
And these two pilots are the same pilot, how?Which is better: Interceptor round!
Soontir Fel
vs
Turr Phennir
Forgive me, I could be mistaken, since I'm not the original poster.
Same point-cost, not same pilot. Going with the Wedge discussion earlier, we might throw in Luke Skywalker + 5 builds... probably a Stealth/Hull + Expert Handling, Opportunist + R2 Astro, or a 1 point EPT + one of the 4 pointers listed with Wedge.
Same point-cost, not same pilot. Going with the Wedge discussion earlier, we might throw in Luke Skywalker + 5 builds... probably a Stealth/Hull + Expert Handling, Opportunist + R2 Astro, or a 1 point EPT + one of the 4 pointers listed with Wedge.And these two pilots are the same pilot, how?Which is better: Interceptor round!
Soontir Fel
vs
Turr Phennir
Forgive me, I could be mistaken, since I'm not the original poster.
Standing down, sir! Please don't force-choke me!
Same point-cost, not same pilot. Going with the Wedge discussion earlier, we might throw in Luke Skywalker + 5 builds... probably a Stealth/Hull + Expert Handling, Opportunist + R2 Astro, or a 1 point EPT + one of the 4 pointers listed with Wedge.
And these two pilots are the same pilot, how?Which is better: Interceptor round!
Soontir Fel
vs
Turr Phennir
Forgive me, I could be mistaken, since I'm not the original poster.
Bah, I'm not Vader. Demotion works just as well for improving my roster, except that no-one is as incompetent as a corpse. Carry on, do not disappoint me further, I'm altering the deal, blah blah whrrpsssh blah.
Again with the Interceptors:
Saber Squadron Pilot
+ Opportunist
vs
Royal Guard Pilot
+ Push the Limit
Again with the Interceptors:
Saber Squadron Pilot
+ Opportunist
vs
Royal Guard Pilot
+ Push the Limit
I dunno... I don't have the fancy Interceptor with the repaint and the actual pilot card to evaluate the differences. Oh wait, I'm supposed to pretend I actually have the goods in hand?!
Again with the Interceptors:
Saber Squadron Pilot
+ Opportunist
vs
Royal Guard Pilot
+ Push the Limit
Royal Guard without a doubt, it's not even a close fight. TIEint needs the PTL so badly
Edited by Durahamtry mine:
Horton + Proton torp x2
Horton + Ion turret + R5D8
TenNumb + Marksmanship
Or
TenNumb + AdvSensors
The latter is perhaps the best upgrade for the BWing, but the former takes advantage of Ten's native ability
Edited by berusplantsIt's a nice exercise but when you start looking at just a point value and the ships that can fill that point total I believe you are losing something. I mean consider "33 point Imperial Ships"
Bounty Hunter
Vader with Engine Upgrade/Shield Upgrade/Cluster Missile/Concussion Missile
- Stealth Device + Adrenaline Rush/Determination/DtF/Veteran Instincts
- Expose
Soontir Fel + PtL + Stealth Device
Carnor Jax + PtL + Shield Upgrade
Turr + VI + Shield + Stealth Device/Hull Upgrade (RG)
Omicron Group pilot + FCS + Gunner + Intel Agent + Engine Upgrade
Captain Jonus + Homing Missile + Deadeye/Adrenaline Rush + Proton Bomb
GSP + APT + PT (or other 4 point torp/missile) + Proton Bomb
All of these are 33 points but they certainly shouldn't be considered "interchangeable" with each other when it comes to squad building.
In which we take a current all-star, and construct a build with the exact same point-cost that might be better.
As an example,
Han Solo
+ Marksmanship
+ Gunner
+ Chewbacca
vs
Han Solo
+ Push the Limit
+ Gunner
+ Recon Specialist
+ Millennium Falcon Title
Which is better: Interceptor round!
Turr Phennir
+ Push the Limit
+ Royal Guard Interceptor Title
+ Stealth Device
+ Targeting Computer
All these pilots are over upgraded.
Han should only have Gunner and Millennium Falcon Title
And I think Turr Phennir is a better buy for his points with just one of these upgrades. Pick which one you like. I like him without any upgrades most of the time. Sure if I have some points after buying all my ships I would seriously consider buying him upgrades, but he doesn't need them