Some of you may seen my other post, which was a list of some questions about Black Crusade before I go ahead and buy it. This is the link below if you are interested in commenting at all;

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_foros_discusion.asp?efid=231&efcid=3&efidt=681311

One of the main things that popped up for me was the apparent lack of voidships and their associated rules, if this is true (bare in mind I'm only going off what I was told so I might have it wrong) then I'm curious to to know how DMs handle this aspect of the 40k universe in their games of Black Crusade. Personally as an avid Battlefleet Gothic player and reader of Black Library fiction I find this part of 40k to be the most compelling, anyway it seems to me that no Black Crusade could even take place without marshalling a fleet. I'm aware that charging off into the Imperium on the 14th Black Crusade isn't necessarily the only end game, but even a minor traitor needs a ship to drag his twisted mutated arse out of the Screaming Vortex right?

So, how do people here handle traversing the void and conflict in it, do they borrow from Rogue Trader and Koronus Expanse or simply take a narrative approach maybe with a few house rules thrown in to spice it up?

Thanks.

DW

Confirmed: Black Crusade does not have rules for voidships. There is so much in the core rules that I suspect they simply did not have room. Travel is handled abstractly; there are several 'acquisitions' that a warband can make to move themselves between worlds, from persuading a ship captain to give them passage, to finding a small warp gate, to daemonic intervention, to things best left unspoken…

Personally, it's not an issue since I also own Rogue Trader and most of the supplements. But, if your library is less extensive, you may need to do a little fudging.

Cheers,

- V.

Thanks that's cleared it up for me Vandegraffe. Unfortunately my library isn't particularly extensive for now, I've got the Dark Heresy and Rogue Trader core rule books and I'm currently volunteering abroad and living off less than £200 a month, so if I bought a hard copy book it'd be a big investment. First opportunity I get I plan to buy the Battlefleet Koronus book which from the sounds of it will more than satiate my nautical needs, and luckily the girlfriend is as big a geek as I am so she'll understand. Coupling those with Black Crusade and maybe one of the four Chaos Power's books and I'd be quite happy to fudge a few things.

Till then I think I'll get one of these electronic copies of Black Crusade to tide me over and give me something to read that isn't set in Westeros every now and then

DW

I believe that, by the way the timeline is set, PCs will likely be way ahead of 13th Black Crusade, so it's unlikely that there's would be the 14th. However, AFAIK, those numbers only refer to the Crusades of Abaddon coming from the Eye of Terror. The Crusades of other warlords from other places in the galaxy are likely to be named somewhat differently.

Just a phrase. Besides, the naming of the Crusades are Imperial names aren't they? I've often wondered, the warp and its effects on time being what they are, if the order of the Crusades perceived by Abbadon et al is the same as the order it is perceived in by the Imperium and those outside the warp. Yu know, the 13th being the 5th etc.

"Ahhh, so you killed Abaddon and destroyed the Planet Killer did you? Well done, good for you Imperials.. a shame he led a half a dozen other Crusades from the Warp before that one, they just haven't left yet…"

DW

In space, no one can hear you say no.

DarkWinds said:

Since the 13th Black Crusade used, I believe, the Blackstone Fortresses that Abaddon had captured as part of the 12th Black Crusade (The Gothic War), I believe they are numbered in the order in which Abaddon carried them out, since even Chaos forces refer to Abaddon's Black Crusades by number.