Value this droid (for crafting)

By mayegelt, in Game Masters

Hello, and thank you for any help you will be offering.

I have a character in my campaign who used to be a ship mechanic but has become a droid engineer over the course of many many sessions, in which he has a couple of B2 Battle droids he has refurbished, and has little mechanical spider droids that go around the ship and fix things and spy on people. He also tends to be non-lethal himself having chosen to use a Goo-Gun to incapacitate people, though often his group will take advantage of an easy kill.

So a bit of background info needed for those who don't have most / all the books at their disposal for reference,

The current options in the Special Mods book is a Combat Chassis Brawn 2, Agility 2, Int 1, Cunning 1, Will 1, Presence 1, Soak 4, Wound 4, Melee Def 0, Range Def 0, Minion. for 3,250 creds base cost, Taking 2 days to build.
OR an Advanced Combat Chassis is Brawn 4, Agi 3, Int 3, Cunning 3, Will 1, Presence 1, Soak 7, Wounds 19, Strain 10, Melee Def 0, Range Def 1, Nemesis, for 32,500 creds base. Taking 10 days to build.

They also get protocols that are either Combat directives (1 rank in 3 different combat skills, and the Talent of bodyguard one taking 16hrs to program. OR Elimination directives what gives 4 ranks in 3 Combat skills, Cool 3, Xenology 1, Mechanics 2, Stealth 2. Also giving it Adversary 2, Lethal blows 3. It also upgrades the droid to Nemesis level giving it strain equal to its wounds. Taking 7 days to program.

Sorosuub Wanderer Scout Survey Droid (Rival) is a prebuilt one that is Brawn 2, Agi 4, Int 1, Cun 1, Will 1, Pres 1, Soak 3, Wound 10 with a Stun Blaster and Perception 3, Ranged (Light) 1, Stealth 2, Survival 3. At 2500creds.
Sorosuub Corporation 87-RM Scout Collector (Rival) is a prebuilt one that is Brawn 4, Agi 1, Int 2, Cun 1, Will 1, Pres 1, Soak 8, Wound 20 with Grapple Arms (Brawl, Damage 6, Crit 5, Range (Engaged), Ensnare 3) Cryostorage Bay, Knowledge (Xenology) 4, Perception 3. It can also hover. At 6000creds
or lastly
GV/3-Series Guardian Droid (Rival) is a prebuilt one that is Brawn 3, Agi 1, Int 1, Cun 2, Will 2, Pres 1, Soak 5, Wound 15, Melee Def 1, with Retractable blade incisors (Brawl, Damage 5, Crit 3, Range (Engaged), Ensnare 1) & a Retractable Light Blaster (Ranged (Light), Damage 5, Crit 4, Range (Medium, Stun Setting), Brawl 3, Perception 3, Ranged (Light) 2, Vigilance 2. It also can boost defences of its master, and a few other bits. At 8000creds

Anyway, he now wants to build a bigger spider bot that is probably the size of a large dog. The idea of the bot is that he wants it to be able to protect him, but also be able to stealth around keep an eye out for him to alert him to danger. Also he has Deft maker to reduce the cost by 50%.

So he wants Brawn 3, Agility 4, Int 2, Cunning 3 (for perception), Will 2, Presence 1. Soak 6, 16 wounds, 0 melee and 1 ranged defence.
So somewhere between the combat and advanced combat chassis. And at the Rival level rather than the advanced as a nemesis. Its weapons are a web spinner (basically the same as the multi-goo Gun (so damage 2, disorient 1, ensnare 4, knockdown 1. But it will not help with repairing droids and ships) so not a massively offensive weapon, but something to pin the target to prepare it for the fangs. For the fangs we copied the Molecular Stiletto stats. So damage Brawn+0, Crit 2, Pierce 5, Vicious 1. So again not really powerful. As it will only do damage 3 on a hit, but will ignore 5pts of armour. Later on could add poisons or sedatives to it as well if needed.
As for the programming it needed to be a special one that is lower than the elimination protocol (what would have made it to nasty) but slightly better than the combat directive (what would have left it to weak). So Melee 1, Ranged (Light) 1, Stealth 2, Mechanics 2, Athletics 1, Coordination 1. Maybe give it bodyguard 1 as well.
Looking at the time and prices on the loadouts in the book. I think the droid cost at base would be somewhere between 8-10k (so 4-5k with the talent) including weapons (goo gun is normally 250cred, the molecular stiletto is 500creds). As for time and skill check. I think 4 difficulty and 4 days for the bot and 3 difficulty and 3 days for programming.
One of the options could be to lower the cunning to 1-2 and give ranks of perception instead.

What ya think? Any and all suggestions welcome.

Look at the k-9 hunter droid as a pre built base

On 5/6/2017 at 2:29 PM, mayegelt said:

So he wants Brawn 3, Agility 4, Int 2, Cunning 3 (for perception), Will 2, Presence 1. Soak 6, 16 wounds, 0 melee and 1 ranged defence.

Those stats are pretty awesome, for a droid. How much theoretical XP would they require, I wonder... I would totally play it as a PC.

I'm not too familiar with droid crafting, but is there a commensurate increase in cost or skill checks involved in raising stats/ adding skills?

Basically with driod crafting you can raise some stats and skills with advantage and triumph rolls in general. However they only have 5 base profiles they have generated. The problem with those 5 is that you have a monotask minion what is all 1s, a labor droid, specialist, combat and advanced combat. None of which are strong or tough enough as a base model even with extremely good rolls. Apart from the advanced combat, what is far to strong with the characters we have. So was looking for a mid point.

On 2017-5-8 at 3:54 PM, TheShard said:

Look at the k-9 hunter droid as a pre built base

Which book is k-9 hunter in?

11 hours ago, mayegelt said:

Which book is k-9 hunter in?

Enter the Unknown.

I'd be interested in finding or building a droid that is a good inexpensive gunner. Since we can only have one gunner droid brain on our ship we have guns that we won't be able to use.

Could definitely do with a droid schematic that is rival level. The advanced combat chassis is really too powerful (especially as you can still equip it, so can cheaply give it 9 soak, 10 with three advantages).

Could just go with something like :

Brawn 3, Agility 2, Intellect 2, Cunning 2, Willpower 1, Presence 1

Soak 4 (unlike Minion the players will want to integrate equipment, so this means 6-7 soak in practice), W Threshold 11.

(R) 6500 Credits, 5 rarity, Daunting check, 4 days (96 hours)

So slight upgrade on Specialist Droid (1 stat, 1 soak), but increased cost and time to build also.

Edited by Darzil